punkdaddy Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 We're a little behind on this but I am opening Advocate candidacy declarations per: (2) Elections for Advocate will consist of a three day period for declarations of candidacy followed by a five day period for voting. This thread will stay open for 3 days. You must be a continuous member of the Voice for at least a month to be recognized as a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eluvatar Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I nominate Malviet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegarth Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I nominate Punk Daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TunApocalypse Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I second the nomination for Punk Daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malviet Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I opt out; thanks Eluvatar, but the job will be too much for me. I third the nomination for Punkdaddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkdaddy Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Rats...I mean...Yay, Malviet has declined. I'll accept my nomination. Drachmaland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nox Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I nominate Elegarth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegarth Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I nominate Elegarth. Since I'm supposed to take over the delegacy soon, and since I consider that at least at first I'll need to both get used and find my way into that seat, I'll decline this time. Thanks Nox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple country Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Someone please nominate me, I'll promise I do a good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegarth Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Someone please nominate me, I'll promise I do a good job! You can nominate yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple country Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I nominate myself, can you second my nomination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Badger Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I 2nd your nomination. Elegarth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediobogdum Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I nominate Somebody. Somebody needs to update the membership list of the Voice because there are 11 applications outstanding and who knows how many on the list should not be on it. The last update recorded is the 4th July, 2015 People who have applied to join but have not yet been accepted will not be allowed to nominate a candidate or vote in the election which will make some players very annoyed/angry. Until this list is updated the nomination process should either be extended, or we recommence the nomination process once the list has been updated. We do not want a repeat of one of our previous Voice votes. Malviet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Pacific Spy Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 As a non-Voice member, may I suggest starting a new thread with a blank slate. The Voice was dissolved, and this is a reformation, so the membership does not carry over. Easier to update that way, and removes all inactive members still officially counted, despite them never having joined this iteration, with one stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegarth Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 As a non-Voice member, may I suggest starting a new thread with a blank slate. The Voice was dissolved, and this is a reformation, so the membership does not carry over. Easier to update that way, and removes all inactive members still officially counted, despite them never having joined this iteration, with one stroke. I'm afraid you are wrong, since the dissolution was considered not legal, and hence we simply kick started activity again. And the advocate can consider any signed up member as a member as of the date they posted, regardless of when was the list itself updated, simplifying / solving the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegarth Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Since I'm supposed to take over the delegacy soon, and since I consider that at least at first I'll need to both get used and find my way into that seat, I'll decline this time. Thanks Nox! Scratch that. Since I was nominated and PD has not accepted yet, I'll conditionally accept my nomination. If PD accepts on time, I'll probably remove myself from the election, but if not, then consider my nomination accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple country Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Rats...I mean...Yay, Malviet has declined. I'll accept my nomination. Elegarth, PD accepted his nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkdaddy Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 I was thinking of using North Pacific's Spy's tactic. I will update the list prior to the start of the election. I tend to be fair and won't mind delegating this if people think it's unfair and that i'm biased as a candidate. Let's not let this derail us as it's procedural and we can get through it. I will make my best attempt to get the list updated before my head hits the pillow tonight. Mediobogdum and North Pacific Spy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegarth Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Elegarth, PD accepted his nomination. LOL! Then I'm out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Called the Vlagh Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I'm afraid you are wrong, since the dissolution was considered not legal, and hence we simply kick started activity again. And the advocate can consider any signed up member as a member as of the date they posted, regardless of when was the list itself updated, simplifying / solving the issue. This is the first time I have seen this interpretation. I was under the impression that you simply restarted the Voice in spite of URAP. The action that I took had precedent and was not, at least by any measure that can reasonably be utilized in a region without a firm code of laws, 'illegal'. I know I certainly did not do anything that was not within my purview under the prior Delegate. I have been working under the impression that I was no longer in the Voice since I did not vocally support the restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegarth Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 This is the first time I have seen this interpretation. I was under the impression that you simply restarted the Voice in spite of URAP. The action that I took had precedent and was not, at least by any measure that can reasonably be utilized in a region without a firm code of laws, 'illegal'. I know I certainly did not do anything that was not within my purview under the prior Delegate. I have been working under the impression that I was no longer in the Voice since I did not vocally support the restart. Arguably true as well. We hit a gray area there. In any case, as I've already said in other posts in the past month, your personal actions on it were not a decision you made, you were just the messenger of orders given by the former delegate, and neither myself, nor should others by the way, consider your actions wrong: you followed the orders given to you by the creator of your position. In my book, the messenger does not carries fault for the message. so whatever was done wrong, it should be attributed to the former delegate. Now well, you can quit the voice, or belong to it. The constitution is the same, same rules, no constitutional convention was done, and is simpler and easier to carry it over... Drachmaland and Fujai 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Called the Vlagh Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Arguably true as well. We hit a gray area there. In any case, as I've already said in other posts in the past month, your personal actions on it were not a decision you made, you were just the messenger of orders given by the former delegate, and neither myself, nor should others by the way, consider your actions wrong: you followed the orders given to you by the creator of your position. In my book, the messenger does not carries fault for the message. so whatever was done wrong, it should be attributed to the former delegate. Now well, you can quit the voice, or belong to it. The constitution is the same, same rules, no constitutional convention was done, and is simpler and easier to carry it over... No, I am fine with being a member of the Voice so long as I do not have to reapply for membership. In that case, even though I am well aware of what the outcome will be, I will stand for Advocate. While I have trust that PunkDaddy can do a great job, his commitments as a Guardian would seem to pose a potential conflict of interest in regards to the separation of the offsite government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegarth Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 As I see Vlagh already did, I'd like to remind all other candidates that as of the moment they accept, they can open platform / campaigning threads in the Voice forum, as usually done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Badger Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I would like to run to be the Advocate of the Voice. If elected, I will work on three things while in office. 1. Increased offsite activity. I will work to increase activity through advertising, holding my DA's accountable, and increasing membership's participation in government. 2. As Advocate I will work with the Delegate and the Voice to clarify roles of the offsite government as well as the needs of TWP. I believe that the offsite government must work with the delegate to achieve their vision of the TWP. In game we have the ability to chose the delegate through endorsements. The offsite government must work with that choice. 3. If elected I will listen to the membership and assist the Voice to create ownership, interest, and activity! I have the time to commit to this service to TWP the region that I love! Vote for Badger! Actually I need my nomination seconded first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple country Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I second big bad badger, and withdraw my nomination. I think I will do a good job but there is so many good candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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