Malviet

As stated by Drach, it was and is my belief that internal affairs should deal with the forums only. A new DA would be able to better focus on recruitment because that would be his only job. And a dedicated place for anyone to ask questions would help ensure that those questions are asked and answered.

I would like to address the common request for more transparency. 
This government is completely transparent. 
 
Many seem to believe that there is some secret cabal of people meeting to govern this region. The truth is that you see everything.  There is indeed a seeeekrit chamber for Guardians to discuss strategy.  But this area has been very much under-used recently.  And besides...  The Guardians don't run the forum government.
 
I'm saying these things because I believe that people are holding back their opinions in the false assumption that things are predetermined by people who "know better than we do."  I am here to tell you that this is not true at all.  Please, if you have any thoughts at all about the way you want to see the region governed, express them.  I can't promise that people will agree with you, but I can promise you that if it is a question or comment you have in your head, it is very likely that you are not the only one with these thoughts.
 
Speak up!  This is The Voice afterall

This thread can be used to discuss the changes we need to make to the Voice.  Here is my list of things the Voice should incorporate now that we have returned normality.  This is supposed to get discussion going, and is by no means final.  Bear with me.
 
I would like to put this excerpt from the Delegate’s proposal somewhere in the Charter because it clears any possible confusion over how the lawmaking starts.
​"​LAWMAKING: Each and all members of the voice can make law proposals that will govern and limit the actions of the off-site community (no law shall pertain the in-game aspect); this laws can be discussed freely by all members of the voice and the delegacy, as moderated by the Advocate and its deputies.​" The Voice needs to actually create laws about its procedure, otherwise nothing will get off the ground.
 
I’ve had this idea for a while and never really put it out there, but this could be a good tool for increasing activity.
New Nation Affairs Ministry: It would be the task of this ministry to provide a centralized location for all help links, extra help material beyond what already exists, and answers other questions that may be asked. This ministry would not be just for the newbs, of course.  Anyone could come here to ask a question about the game or the forums, so a different name may be appropriate in that sense.  It could utilize in-game mechanics such as the RMB and telegrams to get the word out. If it was included in the WFE and welcome telegram, then it could increase traffic to and draw in more new nations to take part in the forums.  
This line of the Charter needs to be changed.  Currently it doesn’t specify how the Voice can remove appointed officials other than the Advocate.
(11) The Voice may, by two-thirds majority vote, dismiss any official appointed by the Advocate from office.  
To simplify the application process instead of using threads and such to say what positions are up for grabs.  Also changing the way DAs are chosen.
Applications would to an "Application Officer of the Voice" who would handle the application procedure with the Voice, then they went to the Voice itself to see which one's passed there, and finally to the Advocate for the final choice.  Or perhaps to the Advocate first and then to the Voice in more of an appointment and confirmation style setup. The Application Officer would simply receive the applications by a set deadline, then report them to the Voice or whoever for a vote.  This simply makes it more formal and a little simpler for the layman to understand.  
To combat a potential inactive Advocate:
A council with rotating (active) members along with the DAs and Advocate would run the day to day tasks of the Voice, while the whole Voice would be used for legislative purposes. Also, in the case of an inactive member in a leadership position, there could be an "Inactive Vote" where 2/3 of the Voice votes to replace said official with an interim replacement, and then another vote ending the replacementship (there's a better word for that, I just can't think of it).  
Overall, in order to promote ease of access to the Voice, there should be as few grey areas as possible as well as explanations of how things work so there is as little confusion as possible.
 
 
 

Any sarcasm delivered was unintentional, sorry. 

Composing a TG now, I'll get it out by the end of today.

It is your duty and privilege as resident of TWP to shape the offsite government into whatever you wish. I tried to realize that privilege, but the delegate does not have that privilege. They give it up when they take the seat and regain it when they leave.
I will fully back any government created by the residents as long as it does not attempt to break game rules.
I can't win in terms of criticism so at this point I'm not even going to try.

*grabs brand new pen,  starts filling out forms*

Let's see... write your full name at the top of the form

O_o

No one said there was going to be a test.....

Of course you can - here fill in these forms.
*hands over 75 page booklet*

What do I want from our Delegate?
To use the powers given to him by Max, such as sending region-wide telegrams, to promote contributing in the Voice, or if that is not sufficient, at least get our fellow TWPers to join the forum community.

I had sent region-wide tgs for ambassador and TWPAF recruitment during my short time in the chair and there was a reasonable return rate so, let's do it again, ...... and again, ...... and again ......

What do I want from our Delegate?
To use the powers given to him by Max, such as sending region-wide telegrams, to promote contributing in the Voice, or if that is not sufficient, at least get our fellow TWPers to join the forum community.

I definitely believe that within one month's time we would have been more active in the Voice. Not even a question in my mind about that. 

If we can jumpstart the voice, then I'm sure we could focus our first efforts on recruiting back former and new active forum members

Figurehead my ass. I have power here. I may simply refuse to acknowledge the government, in which case it has no power to do anything.
 
Being willing to listen to my people and being powerless are two very, very separate things.
 
You seem to misunderstand me. The government IS tied to the delegate. In fact, at this point the government consists of delegate and the guardians. Only. I may choose to introduce an offsite portion, at which time I will still be the supreme authority.

Not even then.

Say yes!  Say yes!
 
NS is the perfect place to learn by trial and error.  No one gets killed when we screw up.

I support Elegarth's cause on restarting the Voice, OUR Voice. No offense, Russo.

Thank you Elegarth, you have restored my faith in sanity.  I was logging in to post a motion to recommission the Voice and its Charter.  I believe it is a workable system given a bit of time and effort from this community.  I agree with you completely there.
 
I also believe that the Delegate unilaterally declaring it void as Fujai said was a violation of trust between that office and this community.
 
Count me in!

Which is now morphing into Elegarth's proposal to bring back the Voice.
Cool to have you on board!

Ask all the people busy creating/restoring one.

This will not end well.

What a complete and utter cluster. Bureaucratic, controlling - I've seen some misguided attempts at forming a government and constitution in my time in TWP, but this just about takes the cake.
Your mask is slipping Vlagh.

randomness
 
 
I think you should let the govt. on the forum choose it's own form as long as it proclaims it's fealty to the Delegate and the Guardians.
 
 
unless of course this is a revolutionary govt. then revolt away.
 
 
there is no reason to have Governors and Ministers and Advocates, is this an attempt to give roles to promote activity? ok fine, pick one, call the Advocates so you don't sound as if you're setting up a NPO colony, if you're doing that why wouldn't the players just go to the Pacific?
 
When I said something about a Union that was two independent regions acting in concert to project a proper image, images are important in branding.
 
 
 
RP on the forum, general silliness on general, does military exist anymore in the game? are the ways to get activity going.
 
 
That and the Delegate needs to double as Entertainment Chairman.

You love that hypocrite word.
 
Me saying that your opinion of the role of the Delegate makes sense because of your role in TP =/= me claiming you are NPO influenced in the decisions you make in TWP.
 
All it shows is that I don't care for duality, which I've been clear on. Your general opinions in each region cannot be compartmentalised. That does not mean you cannot /act/ without being influenced by ambitions from the other region. Which I've said elsewhere at this point.
 
Your opinion is that the Delegate's opinion is all that matters. That makes sense because you are a Delegate (and an authoritarian one at that).
 
Nice try though.

You seem to be on some ridiculous crusade to victimise yourself.

So you're resorting to using your position in another region, despite your own belief in duality, as a defence for a crime I never actually accused you of.
 
What a strange conversation this is.