Elegarth

Mid terms days, GE?

Hey Sealand, how is it going?

The amount of random spam in this thread is increasing... and no one has said HELLO or HI to me in a while

Have never had pumpkin pie honestly.

When is apple pie

Isn't it tasty?

I dunno but I'm honestly excited about the Orion project and the possibility of reaching MARS soon.

Well, my doggie is still awesome.

Well, there is my thread and now this thread... we have 2 sets of evidence

Not really. There have been times of enlightenment when more than disturbed, things can be AWESOME...

And what about rogue delegacies supported by the vide-delegate? How would you react to it, with no Guardians to be points of jump to recover the region?

It is actually

To the power of PI

Well, for thing to reach the point when they can be let to run by themselves you have a lot of work to do, it is just not the status quo... You have to CREATE it first

Of course there are! I'm one!

We deviated from on-topic again :/ Sorry

/me hugs GE

You think so? Why?

As most of the things that happen around NS lately xD

Aerospace, pffffft. That is not a real thing, boy.

That's hawt

You could also do your own thread

Trust me, I'm an engineer

Toast to an interesting question. From my NS upbringing, I've never perceived or thought of a separation in terms of the region in its off-site and its on-site existences, until I actually joined TWP and realized the way it was currently setup - what I've called the double-think bit of TWP - and the way one of the facets interacts with the other. Since then, I've pondered a bit about it and come up with some interesting ideas, but none of them definitive and none of them considered absolute or unique: more like the flavors of your ice cream, all are valid, you can feel free to select your favorite (chocolate, anyone?). The factors in here are unity and disassociation, giving us basically 4 kinds of relations that we should consider: - Disassociated and united facets. (Type 1) - Disassociated and non-united facets. (Type 2) - Associated and united facets. (Type 3) - Associated and non-united facets. (Type 4) Associated/Disassociated refers to the organization of the region itself: is it a single form of government that reflects on the Delegate being also the off-site leader of the region, or if the Delegate may be NOT the actual off-site leader (owner/admin/etc). And the Unity refers to the members, are those active in the RMB the same ones who are active in the offside forums? Do they add up to the same community? Each of the different types of relations between the facets (the off-site/forum facet and the on-site/RMB facet) determinates not only the government and structural nature of each region, but also how they can act and what changes can be implemented for one to influence the other, or for both to work together towards common goals and improvement. It is obvious that those regions characterized as United (Types 1 and 3) shouldn't really be of concern for the question, since both communities will be basically the same and new members to either will surely get easilly pulled into the other from the community momentum as whole. That level of unity, however, is not as common as one would expect as there are MANY players on each region that can be active participants in the RMB without ever bothering to the offsite forums. Types 2 and 4 are not only the ones where things get interesting, but the reality of the majority of our regions - be them GCRs or UCRs. Our RMBs and our forum communities are not always the same, and people hugely active in one are not always hugely active in the other - myself being a good example: I'm active in 3 feeder forums, but almost a ghost on the RMBs. This is, overall, negative. So my main ending point was that I feel the communities should become UNITED communities, and where the disassociation comes into play, as it allows for a different level of flexibility in the govenrment of the feeder (either off-site or on-site facets) to deal, design and implement ways to bring both communities together. Bringing these two communities together must be a process explicitely directed at the communities themselves, and any region and people trying to do it, should be able to study and analyze them detailedly to make sure he has clear what are the joining points / interests that could be serve them on the process, and from there, try to strenghthem through joint "events" or through active discussion that involved both parties - even serving as "carriers" of the ideas if necessary. The work can be quite a load, obviously. I know the question explicitely ask "what ways would you change things to make reality reflect your views and how would you help get the nations of the region to actively support this move?" and here is where I feel I have replied without replying. Making reality reflect your views can be hard, but if you take the approach I mentioned, you may find a reality in the middle of your views and the status quo from where things can flow naturally into a single community with several interaction methods instead of separate communities. My $0.02. Cheers! Elegarth

Well said WW!