Elegarth

Toast to an interesting question. From my NS upbringing, I've never perceived or thought of a separation in terms of the region in its off-site and its on-site existences, until I actually joined TWP and realized the way it was currently setup - what I've called the double-think bit of TWP - and the way one of the facets interacts with the other. Since then, I've pondered a bit about it and come up with some interesting ideas, but none of them definitive and none of them considered absolute or unique: more like the flavors of your ice cream, all are valid, you can feel free to select your favorite (chocolate, anyone?). The factors in here are unity and disassociation, giving us basically 4 kinds of relations that we should consider: - Disassociated and united facets. (Type 1) - Disassociated and non-united facets. (Type 2) - Associated and united facets. (Type 3) - Associated and non-united facets. (Type 4) Associated/Disassociated refers to the organization of the region itself: is it a single form of government that reflects on the Delegate being also the off-site leader of the region, or if the Delegate may be NOT the actual off-site leader (owner/admin/etc). And the Unity refers to the members, are those active in the RMB the same ones who are active in the offside forums? Do they add up to the same community? Each of the different types of relations between the facets (the off-site/forum facet and the on-site/RMB facet) determinates not only the government and structural nature of each region, but also how they can act and what changes can be implemented for one to influence the other, or for both to work together towards common goals and improvement. It is obvious that those regions characterized as United (Types 1 and 3) shouldn't really be of concern for the question, since both communities will be basically the same and new members to either will surely get easilly pulled into the other from the community momentum as whole. That level of unity, however, is not as common as one would expect as there are MANY players on each region that can be active participants in the RMB without ever bothering to the offsite forums. Types 2 and 4 are not only the ones where things get interesting, but the reality of the majority of our regions - be them GCRs or UCRs. Our RMBs and our forum communities are not always the same, and people hugely active in one are not always hugely active in the other - myself being a good example: I'm active in 3 feeder forums, but almost a ghost on the RMBs. This is, overall, negative. So my main ending point was that I feel the communities should become UNITED communities, and where the disassociation comes into play, as it allows for a different level of flexibility in the govenrment of the feeder (either off-site or on-site facets) to deal, design and implement ways to bring both communities together. Bringing these two communities together must be a process explicitely directed at the communities themselves, and any region and people trying to do it, should be able to study and analyze them detailedly to make sure he has clear what are the joining points / interests that could be serve them on the process, and from there, try to strenghthem through joint "events" or through active discussion that involved both parties - even serving as "carriers" of the ideas if necessary. The work can be quite a load, obviously. I know the question explicitely ask "what ways would you change things to make reality reflect your views and how would you help get the nations of the region to actively support this move?" and here is where I feel I have replied without replying. Making reality reflect your views can be hard, but if you take the approach I mentioned, you may find a reality in the middle of your views and the status quo from where things can flow naturally into a single community with several interaction methods instead of separate communities. My $0.02. Cheers! Elegarth

Well said WW!

And where do I sent my essay?

I already did it, but you never told me to...

TO be fair, that still requires engineering

Nope, there's three of us apparently. Yet again, doubting myself is a good thing to do xD

I'm usually not sure what I'm saying anyway

I want that to happen.

I don't disapprove of you

Didn't meant to call you or make you feel stupid, my friend.

DO EET! YOU CAN HAZ CHOCOLATE AND ALL!

Well, it is a very welcoming conversation, for that matter

Well, since most of our valuable astronomical machines require that sort of engineering knowledge for full design and operation... I guess the question answers itself... unless you are confusing astronomy with astrology?

Hi there! Welcome to the Secret Kingdom of Darkesia and her beloved Bishop of Sensibility. Have you done the sensible thing to do and moved a nation to TWP?

You can visit mine, as Dark says, but get your own welcome thread indeed. And it is Sensible... I need to make a declaration of sensibility soon I still love you GE YAY!!!!! I love you McM!

Aren't we all?

Some people just want to be a pain, eh?

Sooooooooo... Fiscal Year is finally over, which makes me amazingly happy and also means I may have more time to spam around here. How's everyone?

It is indeed, plus not having to go out

I work from 7:30AM to 4:00PM, during that time, my wife is away at her office, my daughter is at school and my mother-in-law stays all day in her room watching crap TV and doesn't messes with me... So is really not an issue at all for me to work from home, and it saves me of 3 to 4 hours of travelling so... I'm all for it... AH! And I get to sleep or play PS3 or watch TV when work is low

Me, working from home, every thursday and Friday

WHat are you up to now man?

I want a cat

Thank you, my dear GE

I once saw a total solar eclipse... I wish I can one day travel to enjoy another.