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How stupid do players in TWP have to be to assume they do not have the RIGHT to rebel against a tyrannical government.  This forum is not the game and the game is not this forum. They are separate but related entities but they are not one and the same.  The institution we enjoy today ... and have enjoyed for more than 11 years ... was birthed in rebellion against a tyrant (Norion).  If URAP is a traitor to TWP, he can be minimized here in the forum until he either finds favor again, leaves of his own accord, or is banned.  That last is typically used only the most extreme of situations.
 
But hey ... who am I to waltz in here and tell you what to do?  This is your region and forum now and i am just some old fart hasbeen player stepping in and pissing you off.  Then again, that is exactly what TAO does ... and has done for 11 years.

Guilt by association is fine In Game where the worst damage to be done is a free trip to TRR. 
 
In Forum, there needs to be proof that a player is harmful to the Community as a whole (we have had a few like this who will remain unnamed) or violators of COPS. 
 
If anything, TWP is forgiving to a fault and even once-banned players can truly repent, be given another chance, and become productive ... and even loved ... members of the Community again (Tweedy is the poster child for that.)

Guilt by association is fine In Game where the worst damage to be done is a free trip to TRR. 
 
In Forum, there needs to be proof that a player is harmful to the Community as a whole (we have had a few like this who will remain unnamed) or violators of COPS. 
 
If anything, TWP is forgiving to a fault and even once-banned players can truly repent, be given another chance, and become productive ... and even loved ... members of the Community again (Tweedy is the poster child for that.)

Guilt by association is fine In Game where the worst damage to be done is a free trip to TRR. 
 
In Forum, there needs to be proof that a player is harmful to the Community as a whole (we have had a few like this who will remain unnamed) or violators of COPS. 
 
If anything, TWP is forgiving to a fault and even once-banned players can truly repent, be given another chance, and become productive ... and even loved ... members of the Community again (Tweedy is the poster child for that.)

The beauty of our TWP system -- as  Isee it -- is that ANY government format can be created in the forum and the Delegate can be a major player in that format both in forum and in game. What we look for in leaders is leadership.  The Guardians system in TWP is simply a failsafe for those times when leadership is weak. 
 
If someone thinks a bicameral construct is worthwhile and can sell the idea to the region, we will go with it.  If someone believes s/he can convince us all to go to the Dark Side and become the biggest damn Raiding Force in all NS history and that leader has a solid action plan  to present to the region, we might even go for that.  If the Delegate decides "Ahh F**k it!!!" and goes roo-pooh crazy, like we recently experienced, no big deal.  The Guardian system is in place to take the hit, correct and reset.  The recent "failure" (if there really was one) can be tied to only two things (imo) ... the lack of resolve and integrity of the URAP player and the retirement (and loss of major Influence) of the primary Old Guardians.  

Kolmias ... those systems used in other regions that you name were the children of the TWP Guardian system.  We were the first to realize the value of Guardians soon after the Game introduced Influence.  In this forum, the Guardian system was imagined and implemented.  As a Minnow Delegate, I was the first to rely on this new concept.  The other regions emulated TWP after they saw how effective a Guardian system could be.
 
But there is something MORE about our system that may not be true about those others ... we develop a true sense of Community with our Guardians and they are players who can be trusted with the very region, if need be.  Originally, the Delegate chose the Guardians but those chosen proved to be loyal and true and therefore remained.  Over time, others were added.  It is only in the last year that TWP has allowed the Old Guardians to retire and new ones to move up.  URAP's failure coincided with this slippage.  It is a growing pang as old moves to new.  I doubt TWP will ever chose to let Guardians be selected by popularity rather than on trust and loyalty.

Kolmias ... those systems used in other regions that you name were the children of the TWP Guardian system.  We were the first to realize the value of Guardians soon after the Game introduced Influence.  In this forum, the Guardian system was imagined and implemented.  As a Minnow Delegate, I was the first to rely on this new concept.  The other regions emulated TWP after they saw how effective a Guardian system could be.
 
But there is something MORE about our system that may not be true about those others ... we develop a true sense of Community with our Guardians and they are players who can be trusted with the very region, if need be.  Originally, the Delegate chose the Guardians but those chosen proved to be loyal and true and therefore remained.  Over time, others were added.  It is only in the last year that TWP has allowed the Old Guardians to retire and new ones to move up.  URAP's failure coincided with this slippage.  It is a growing pang as old moves to new.  I doubt TWP will ever chose to let Guardians be selected by popularity rather than on trust and loyalty.

Kolmias ... those systems used in other regions that you name were the children of the TWP Guardian system.  We were the first to realize the value of Guardians soon after the Game introduced Influence.  In this forum, the Guardian system was imagined and implemented.  As a Minnow Delegate, I was the first to rely on this new concept.  The other regions emulated TWP after they saw how effective a Guardian system could be.
 
But there is something MORE about our system that may not be true about those others ... we develop a true sense of Community with our Guardians and they are players who can be trusted with the very region, if need be.  Originally, the Delegate chose the Guardians but those chosen proved to be loyal and true and therefore remained.  Over time, others were added.  It is only in the last year that TWP has allowed the Old Guardians to retire and new ones to move up.  URAP's failure coincided with this slippage.  It is a growing pang as old moves to new.  I doubt TWP will ever chose to let Guardians be selected by popularity rather than on trust and loyalty.

Kolmias ... those systems used in other regions that you name were the children of the TWP Guardian system.  We were the first to realize the value of Guardians soon after the Game introduced Influence.  In this forum, the Guardian system was imagined and implemented.  As a Minnow Delegate, I was the first to rely on this new concept.  The other regions emulated TWP after they saw how effective a Guardian system could be.
 
But there is something MORE about our system that may not be true about those others ... we develop a true sense of Community with our Guardians and they are players who can be trusted with the very region, if need be.  Originally, the Delegate chose the Guardians but those chosen proved to be loyal and true and therefore remained.  Over time, others were added.  It is only in the last year that TWP has allowed the Old Guardians to retire and new ones to move up.  URAP's failure coincided with this slippage.  It is a growing pang as old moves to new.  I doubt TWP will ever chose to let Guardians be selected by popularity rather than on trust and loyalty.

How stupid do players in TWP have to be to assume they do not have the RIGHT to rebel against a tyrannical government.  This forum is not the game and the game is not this forum. They are separate but related entities but they are not one and the same.  The institution we enjoy today ... and have enjoyed for more than 11 years ... was birthed in rebellion against a tyrant (Norion).  If URAP is a traitor to TWP, he can be minimized here in the forum until he either finds favor again, leaves of his own accord, or is banned.  That last is typically used only the most extreme of situations.
 
But hey ... who am I to waltz in here and tell you what to do?  This is your region and forum now and i am just some old fart hasbeen player stepping in and pissing you off.  Then again, that is exactly what TAO does ... and has done for 11 years.

What ever is in plain site is not hidden. 
 
Besides ... TAO only sees two wheels.