Elegarth

Well, I once again made it into TRT, I think this is the second or third time already? n_n

So how are you all guys?

And Blue Cheese

I never said I did

"All around nice guy" Your signature is inspiring Vlagh

Some people have never seen an atom and still believe in them

With BBQ sauce

We can stop CN topic then I guess

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I've had Chocolate Covered Fried Chicken... It was... messy

We do, now.

You once told me this was a TWP thing and we needed not worry about it

That indeed happens very often

Hehe, I Know your feelings very well, Dark, and I totally understand where they come from. I love both Pacificas, and I dedicate to both Pacificas. The one and original, and the CN sibling.

I've tasted horse meat knowingly, and it seemed pretty similar to beef anyway

I'll catch it till Thursday, BBD. I think this one is called "Listen"? I finally was able to see Robots of Sherwood and I found it a little bit dull, specially for a Mark Gatiss written episode...

Introduction On September 13th, 2004, a vigil was held as Francos Spain ceased to exist - for the first time - in this realm. Last year, on the 10th anniversary of the August Revolution, his nation resurfaced and reminded us all of the dedication he had during his time in this place. This dedication was inherited by many players, not only in NPO or NationStates, but across this vast and endless cyberverse. By Elegarth Pacific News Network 10 Years of Dedication Ten years ago today, Francos Spain Ceased to Exist for the first time. During his tenure, Francos was a leader of unmatched stature, a foundation of dedication that the Order is still built on today. All of Pacifica dedicated itself to moving forward after the fall of Franco, which resulted in the continued survival and prosperity that has carried over into the NPO as we recognize it today. Today serves as the ultimate reminder that we enjoy our long-standing reign over the chaos of the world, because of the dedication of every member, and that such dedication asks us all to be part of something greater than ourselves. It is easy to witness this dedication at play today. New citizen are always expected to be willing to dedicate their nations to the Emperor, and whether they would use it for the betterment of the Order. Take a look at all those that have rised across our various departments and become Senators. You will not find among that group a single ruler who fails to understand the importance of dedication in creating Order amidst Chaos. Every one of them provides unquestionable loyalty to Pacifica and her Emperor, and every one of them is prepared to do whatever it takes to prove that loyalty. However, to each player, each nation ruler, and each member, to each and every one of them, dedication is a personal way of life. We asked several members of the New Pacific Order across the different realms it spans What does dedication mean to you? These are some of their answers. "Dedication is what you get when you multiply perseverance by efficiency." "Dedication means making the Order aware of any improvements you think can happen, and then doing everything you can to make them happen." "Dedication to me means you believe in something so strongly that you are willing to keep working to achieve it, even if achieving this goal is not easy or seemingly obtainable. We are dedicated to obtaining Peace, Strength and Prosperity for everyone in our alliance." "Dedication is, to the Pacifican, not mere dedication to a good. We are not simply dedicated to the parts of the Order, but to Pacifica herself. It is this pure dedication, not just any dedication, that makes Pacifica indestructible." "Dedication is finding the niche that best applies your talents, and blowing everyone away with what you can do." "Dedication is a giving of yourself, contributing your skills talents for a greater and higher purpose. If you're truly dedicated, you leave a bit of yourself in your work, you take ownership of it, and you resolve to keep increasing your devotion to the greater cause." "Dedication, to me, is how the impossible is made possible. He who has dedication can move mountains using spoons and drain oceans using straws. Such dedication that Pacificans show on a daily basis, is what makes NPO a great, powerful and ever-improving alliance." "Dedication to Pacifica means working hard in whatever capacity one serves in - be it a department(s), aiding fellow comrades, or simply fighting in wars to further the Pacifican ideals and way of life." Franco's revolution was not done for nothing, and we do not serve for nothing. As our history has shown, Strength leads to Peace, Peace leads to Prosperity, and Prosperity leads back to Strength. None of that is possible without dedication. That is the reason we serve. Strength, Peace, and Prosperity will never come to us without our dedication. The work of these members and all of our comrades is a daily testament to Francos legacy: we are only the sum of our parts, and no part is greater than that sum. There is no better day to remember that today. Original work by Fereldyn, Adapted by Elegarth Pacific News Network An Interview with Senator Pierconium By Elegarth Pacific News Network

Yeah, I'm not sure either...

I don't even make an effort there anymore, BBD, heh. Sometimes Onder is... *sigh*

I missed the chapter >_>

In that case, I would expect the two dignified treatments be applied accordingly where they are humanized and where they are like cattle?

THE PACIFIC Our Forums - Articles of Government and Civil Code of The Pacific You can visit us on IRC: #The_Pacific in Esper THE PACIFIC SENATE Emperor: Krulltopia Regent: Rothinzil Senator of Justice: Laws and Bylaws Senator of Foreign Affairs: Elegarth Senator of Pacifican Doctrine: Pierconium Senator of Internal Affairs: Feux Senator of the Army: Aleisyr An important message from the NPO to the NS International Community: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=312020#p21706394 Regards,

I agree, this is just an idealized world. And your points are obviously valid and many of them would lead us to a contradiction... So here is my view... Household animals (dogs, cats) have been reared so much that we have "humanized them" and while they do not have the sentience aspect we do, they do seem to have feelings and emotions very related to the humans they are close to (and let's accept this, as we know it to be truth; what is the nature of where this comes from is a discussion for another kind of topic). Hence, they deserve respect in as much as we created in them those emotional response towards our treatment of them. Animals raised for feeding, on the other hand, are not so "humanized" and hence may not go in deep into the same rationale, but then again, as living creatures we also owe them respect, and I personally believe the raising, herding and slaughtering of these animals for human consumption should be done with as much dignity, care and humanity as possible, without ignoring the fact that it is ACTUALLY a slaughtering... I know it may sound contradictory but nonetheless possible. My grand-grand mother (died 5 years ago) use to have chickens and hens at her house. All of them had name, and she used to go into her yard and be nice to them, even caress them, and the hens would come and sit on her a lot... And even then, once a year for X-Mas she used to sacrifice a hen for dinner. And I remember she always saying that she did it as quickly and painless as possible because it was "one of her dear hens"...

I'm... at a lost now. So, what's up people?

Or like Slipknot says... People = Shit