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    The Union of the West Pacific

    in Constitutional Convention

    Posted

    Cormac, your argument about Arbiters is fair enough. I'd prefer a shorter voting time, but I do see where you're coming from.

     

    Also, the Forum Community has every right to set up it's own military, but it's the delegate's right to recognize whether this military is official. I like Dark's compromise.

    The Union of the West Pacific

    in Constitutional Convention

    Posted

    Well, if the off-site community wants to form it's own military, a militia of sorts, it definitely can do so, getting together the people of the off-site community with WA nations ready to act in-game on the decisions made by the off-site community.

     

    At the same time, as can be said about the rest of the community, without the Delegate's approval, such a force couldn't be associated fully with TWP.

     

    Also, yeah, I love the terminology too.

    Democratic Union Party of The West Pacific

    in The Lounge

    Posted

    There's a distinct difference between a debate and bickering. I don't care if that's "what politics come down to". It's that exact enabling attitude that propagates this behavior! The fact that you dismiss it on the premise that it's what people do it awful, you're using an issue's existence to justify it.

     

    Also, I've seen the video before, I'm actually quite fond of CGP Grey.

    Democratic Union Party of The West Pacific

    in The Lounge

    Posted

    I don't have any issues with banter. Friendly conversation is the backbone of all NS communities.

     

    What I do have issues with? The constant bullying of certain nations because of several acts which to be honest, I don't see the severity of. I have an issue, with the complete derailment of every single political discussion on this forum, in order to discuss how terrible Llamas is. I have an issue with the fact that this community has become so suddenly toxic, on all sections of the forums and occasionally RMB.

     

    Possibly worst of all though, I have an issue with the fact that you think it's okay. It's not okay to bring all political discussions down to snide comments and bickering, it's not okay to allow a single argument to completely overtake all other discussion save the spam threads. I joined TWP because it looked like an interesting community to become part of, because I genuinely wanted to take part here. This whole debacle is giving me doubts.

    Motion to close embassies with The Pacific

    in Voice of The West Pacific Union

    Posted

    Let me clear this up.

    I don't necessarily support Llamas.

    However, it is currently IMPOSSIBLE to hold a conversation about ANYTHING ELSE because you people come in here and start attacking him.

    Not ok!

    You are locking up the government with this crap. I go and read a thread eagerly, and then I read the last part with Eli throwing out some crappy comment about Llamas and any desire I had to help, vote, etc. goes away.

    I'm not the only one who has this problem.

    Hariko refuses to participate because of this. Lemonpledge is having the same problems I am.

    You guys are killing the enthusiasm in young new players who wish to participate.

    I don't know about you, but that doesn't seem so smart to me.

    I'm not saying you can't attack Llamas or defending his actions. What I am saying is that you need to keep it in a thread devoted to that topic so I and others like me can ignore it and attempt to participate.

    Dear lord, this above all things. 

    Democratic Union Party of The West Pacific

    in The Lounge

    Posted

    So, Delegate Darkesia noted on IRC earlier that I'm too thin skinned, and that when I feel too many people are opposed to me, I invest my time in more pleasant surroundings. That's generally true, because I don't see the point in sticking around somewhere you're broadly disliked.

     

    That said, I feel that I'm responsible for people disliking me here by not being more respectful of The West Pacific's political culture, and by proposing a big plan without first putting any actual effort into TWP and becoming part of the community. That doesn't sit well with me and it also doesn't sit well with me that some have been left with a negative impression of me without actually getting to know me and see me do something productive. So I would like to contribute here a bit less aggressively and with a somewhat thicker skin toward those who don't like me, some of whom didn't like me long before I ever tried to participate here, which is fine for them.

     

    So, my apologies for the disrespect to your political culture. I should put in the time and effort to be part of your community before thinking I should have input on how it should be run, and that's what I'm going to do.

    Takes a damn strong character to come back and say that, respect to you. I sincerely hope people start getting along, and I'm certain there are many contributions for you to make in time.

    Split from Election Thread

    in Voice of The West Pacific Union

    Posted

    I just looked through, which law specifically dictates that votes can have no conditions? I probably just suck at skimming. :P

     

    Anyway, even though I couldn't find any example of a law banning conditions, that doesn't necessarily mean they're allowed, it's not that that I'm debating you on. My only issue is tat you could have been much more cordial in your response to Llamas' vote, especially seeing as he was trying to show respect to his opposing candidate.

     

    Also, good call on splitting threads, avoided derailing election.

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