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I found him amusing. Much more so than that guy that got so butthurt over a simple emoticon.
Took me a minute, but I remember that emoticon. I thought it was a bit crass but not something to get upset over. But I've spent enough time in darker, worser corners of the internet.
But that was M.O. for a lot of people in the game back then, wasn't it? Whoever gets most offended the fastest "wins". Remember the Tabloid Tribune article about PopeHope being a strumpet? Talk about a shit show.
I think it was Chainik Hocker; used to have Chief Wiggum from The Simpsons as his avatar.
Ah that's right. I was thinking of a different group, different crisis for the emoticon. I enjoyed Chainik Hocker's company. He and I disagreed on everything, in-game and out, but he could hold a conversation. F&P on the other hand, I liked him only because I enjoyed debating with him made me feel smart. He was still a psycho.
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/me points at New People!
NPO infiltratorrrrrrrrrrr!
I was later Prime Minister of The North Pacific (and earlier a delegate) and twice almost Consul of The Meritocracy. Surely that's just as foreign and nefarious?
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I keep contact with him. Should I sent him any message on your behalf?
That'd be wonderful. Thank you.
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Further to that point, The Pacific just did a better job of keeping internal conflicts internal. The ADN-RLA tension just illustrate how poorly the defenders kept things insular. I know our friend Blackbird might be mad at me for saying this, but surely he can't disagree.
Although we were almost always sworn mortal enemies, I always considered Blackbird a true friend. I wish I was able to keep in touch with him. We compared it to the idea of Lee and Grant, late in life, taking fishing trips together. It was through unofficial contacts like those that we (the Pacific, the Atlantic, any of my various identities in the game) and they conducted much of the game's diplomacy. It was a game for us, and we loved talking about it with each other. It wasn't personal like PopeHope et al took it. There was real hatred in her and her clique.
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Can't argue with any of that.
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I think the Administrator does a wonderful job and is a great Canadian. Thank you for your service.
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It always comes back to an Icepick to the skull with you communists doesn't it?
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Hi punkdaddy, Hi Darkesia.
You're right. I don't come around much. I do once in a while once I get curious. I miss the community at times. Considering the pace of discussion, I doubt four months is that unreasonable. That psot had the most substance this thread had seen in at least that long.
....I think the ADN's own hypocrisy did as much to aide the legitimacy of The Pacific than anything.
We certainly tried to highlight, declare, and denounce that at every opportunity. One of the biggest diplomatic coups of the Pacific Senate was when RLA (Red Liberty Alliance? I forget), a left-wing "defender" group allied with the ADN, was caught in some serious gameplay and ethical violations. The Pacific was the first to expose and villify them for it. Having set the moral terms of the conversation, the rest of the world was forced to make a moral stand "with" us and against anyone who defended them. The significance of this for us at that time cannot be overstated. The RLA was weakened, it was split from the ADN, and one of our most prolific enemies (EuroSoviets) was crushed. And we were the world's juggernaut with clean hands. The bitterness between the RLA and ADN was comparable to the Sino-Soviet Split from the real world, and eventually we were able to engage each group against each other.
Of course, we had our own dirty laundry. So did the ADN. There developed a strange unspoken agreement between us that our acrimony would only go to a point, that there were some things we wouldn't expose the other for (to a point), but that we could, at any time, if tensions escalated to that point. Almost like a Mutually Assured Destruction.
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150 years ago on Thursday, 9 April, forces of the Army of Northern Virginia, led by General Robert E. Lee, surrendered to the Army of the Potamac, led by Lieutenant General Ulysses S. Grant. This effectively ended the American Civil War.
This Tuesday, 150 years ago, will mark the night Abahram Lincoln attended the play Our American Cousin at Ford's Theater with his wife Mary Todd, Major Henry Rathbone, his wife Clara Harris. Shortly before the most famous line of the play, the famous actor John Wilkes Boothe crept into the viewing box and fired his Philadelphia deringer pistol. The President would die during the night, immortalized with the words of his Secretary of War Edwin Stanton "Now he belongs to the ages." -
I'm not sure that Kanly applies here though.
(off topic side note: my daughter just started reading Dune)*nods* Certainly not the first time it's been considered. After all, I consider the New Pacific Order and the Crimson Order to both be a part of The Sacred Order. Bringing the glorious revolution to ensure the glory of the birth regions of all nations against the threat of tyranny from those that would impose their will from the outside.
That was the central goal of Comrade Mammothistan ("The Great Protector") during his Premiership of the Pacific Senate. At one point he achieved a loose coalition of three of the five Pacific regions, called the Pacific Cooperation Organization. The West Pacific did not join but was sympathetic to our cause, which left The North Pacific as visibly alone from its sisters. It was a symbolic effort of friendship and (hopefully) ultimate union. As symbolic, it did not achieve much on its own, but it was a powerful message to the ADN, which sought to isolate and destroy The Pacific, of how far the Revolution had come and was going to go.
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No love for Pacificanism? This was Comrade Mammothistan (of The Pacific) 's "revolution in one region" philosophy. It was a purposeful contrast to what he called Atlanticism, which was named after the Atlantic Central Command or Atlantic Alliance, the first military alliance in Nationstates and which had conquered most of the feeder regions. Although groups like the ADN were different, Mammothistan saw them as part of the same mold: imperialist dogs and their lackeys. It also contrasted with the "perpetual revolution" of Unlimited and other peers in the Pacific Senate.
The most well-known doctrine related to that was called Francosim, which Unlimited developed. It shared the same root as Mammothistan's doctrine, it had different answers for different questions, and employed terms like Feederites and Userites. Comrade Mammothistan criticised it as a degenerative and reactionary work. However, Unlimited had the last laugh: Comrade Mammothistan was expelled in a bloody coup, and lived the rest of his days in his mountain bungalow in Wysteria. Eventually, agents of Unlimited discovered and murdered him with an icepick to the skull. -
*nods* I'd have to agree with that. I don't recall anything prior.
This was the original flag of The West Pacific. Just after its birth in April 2003, forces from the Atlantic Central Command, the military wing of what was then the first and preeminent military alliance of Nationstates, stormed the region. After a brief but bitter fight, the Atlantic prevailed. There was a struggle between the two commanders of that invasion -Reubenlucy and the Federation of Commercial Affairs- which bled over into The East Pacific, founded later. My memories of that are hazy now, though.
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You guys have been warned about threadjacking once before. If you cannot stay on topic here, do not post!
lololololololololkay
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When I was Prime Minister of The North Pacific (this is OOC), I tried to craft a law requiring all legislation to include the word "fun" somewhere in it. Sadly, it never got very far because the Speaker was an insufferable sourpuss. Also I had never read the constitution so I didn't know how laws worked there. We had a good administration.
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Yous guys are gross if you're slothering your guinea pigs in ALL of those sauces at once.
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I agree. The latter used to be nice but it was overrun with lulz groups and dialogue there now hurts the brain.
I remember being distinctly impressed with what CN had been able to achieve in its early days as far as content creation. I remember Sir Paul showing me an NPO advert on youtube, which was far beyond the capabilities that we had seen in Nationstates even by us then.
That was one of the best parts about playing, honestly. The Great Society (as Comrade Mammothistan called it) created some great works of art. Not many regions ever had a culture as developed as that.
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Anyone else find it disturbing that our thread on pets has turned into a thread on eating pets?
One man's beloved pet guinea pig is another man's tender meat on a skewer.
- Elegarth and Les Claypool
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Busy, but good busy. Working in a new area that's a challenge, but I wanted a challenge. Kids getting big.
How about yours?
Lived in the middle east for a bit. Moved to Europe for a few years, with an extended trip to central Asia in there. Got a job offer in southeast Asia and felt adventurous so I live here now. It's alright.
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whoa...is that really New People, like the real deal New People???
I got curious. How's the RL?
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Also hello.
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BBD, do you have any favorite crackpot theories?
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Come on, you really wanted to say more than that - you can't fool us
This a speakeasy forum don't ya know?Boy you said it!
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I know. Personally, I think the best shot was when Loop still ruled the East and that nice fellow took the reigns in TNP. Too bad the government of The Pacific at the time preferred kumbaya diplomacy. If The Pacific had held onto TNP and maintained its influence of Loop then the eventual downfall here in TWP would have fit nicely into place.
Oh well, opportunities missed and lost.
Was that the Pirates? He was a nice fellow.
This a speakeasy forum don't ya know?
Classic TWP Flag?
in The Lounge
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The forum destruction was one of the best things to ever happen to the Pacific Senate. I've retold that story elsewhere on this forum before, but here is a condensed version. It created a gigantic rift between the RLA and the ADN akin to the Sino-Soviet Split. The Pacific was the first force to condemn it unequivocally. Having seized the (moral) high ground, we were able to frame the discussion to our benefit:
"The Pacific was the first to expose and villify them for it. Having set the moral terms of the conversation, the rest of the world was forced to make a moral stand "with" us and against anyone who defended them. The significance of this for us at that time cannot be overstated. The RLA was weakened, it was split from the ADN, and one of our most prolific enemies (EuroSoviets) was crushed. And we were the world's juggernaut with clean hands. The bitterness between the RLA and ADN was comparable to the Sino-Soviet Split from the real world, and eventually we were able to engage each group against each other.
Of course, we had our own dirty laundry. So did the ADN. There developed a strange unspoken agreement between us that our acrimony would only go to a point, that there were some things we wouldn't expose the other for (to a point), but that we could, at any time, if tensions escalated to that point. Almost like a Mutually Assured Destruction."