That Called the Vlagh

I think the world is about to end. Everyone get ready.

Then they should have made time to be present within the last five days.

I have sent a message to the Delegate asking her input on my opinions. I would like to await her response before making any decisions. That said, I am not in favor of any further elections for the Prime Minister position, regardless of timescale.

I believe #2 is called the Regional Message Board.

How are we open to NPO influence?The Delegate and Guardians protect TWP. I have known most of them for a very, very long time and know that they are strong willed individuals that would not consider subservience to any other region.

I think the name of the body will be determined through the course of a convention on the subject. Since this is not a bill it should not be treated as such. I support the idea of a full constitutional convention taking place since it is becoming increasingly apparent that certain parties are unhappy with the current government structure. I also agree with Arch regarding the title. Prime Minister implies authority that simply just doesn't exist within the confines of this body.

Are you really so ignorant and out of touch? Just because I oppose you in this election you think that justifies disparaging the entire governmental structure on the NS Gameplay forum? You even include part of your supposed platform as a reason I voted for Elegarth in the complaint there? I like how you are already spreading your incompetence to the rest of NS on our behalf.

I believe it is being suggested that this is a constitution and that the current laws be replaced in entirety.

My main concern with your candidacy is that you don't seem to have a firm grasp of how our system actually works. It would appear that you will win this election, but it may be the case that some will leave the Assembly and form an opposing government or simply go with Arch and try out a new constitutional convention to create something different. Who knows. What I do know is that I am surprised that so many people are voting for someone to uphold the ideals of a system that he doesn't seem to support.

I look forward to your draft.

It's bare, I think. I am all for the abolishment of the current legal structure but will insist on maintaining the Delegate's decision to keep the offsite community and ingame governance separate.

Considering that the Pacific Senate currently consists of the Emperor and two Senators, both of which were old men in the NS world before Milograd was conceived, I sort of doubt he has much influence at present.

Elegarth

I believe Eli was pointing out that this is an incorrect way to look at the position of Prime Minister. To be honest, even if you win this election, as it seems you might, I am not so certain having you take up the role would be in the best interests of the community since you clearly are seeking to undermine the ultimate reason for the role to begin with. The PM can not have an ingame component in TWP because the Delegate has stated that it can not be so. This has been clear from the onset.

Why?

He may have a puppet nation in the region but I am fairly certain he is not a part of the government on any level.

I was about to post a similar question. I believe I know the answer since it has been stated several times that the Prime Minister should be a Guardian within this thread but I would like to know for certain what other role Llamas envisions. I personally see this as the problem with the entire idea of a Prime Minister. It was all well and good to have a Speaker for the Assembly but a PM implies a certain level of regional authority that this offsite community was not ever meant to possess under the current structure, in my opinion.

Unfortunately, I can not speak to that. I was personally on LOA for this entire event and upon my return my associate in The Pacific seems to have immediately begun addressing this issue in Gameplay. It would appear that Feux made some private deal with AMOM about NPO reinstatement which didn't pan out and resulted instead with a senate appointment in the NLO. What I can say definitively, based on my own sources and investigation, is that regardless of AMOM's post, and any dispatch (which I have yet to see), AMOM was not ever reinstated into the Pacific Senate for any moment. He never had access to anything relating to NPO government. As to why this was not addressed, from what I can tell certain parties were contacted privately to disavow this position. But, it seems that the NPO's primary diplomat resigned in protest and the secondary person for that role was busy in Lazarus. If you couple that with the apparent lack of communication internally that seems to have occurred between what the NLO was planning and what was shared with the NPO you get a nice big clusterf*ck such as we have seen here.

No, he was not. He was never reinstated and his statement regarding this was a lie. Also, at least one such player has decided to take up an active role again.

Yes, it would appear that acting against the will of the Emperor has consequences in The Pacific.

Political blunders have repercussions within a meritocratic society.

I believe the new Regent of The Pacific has a similar point of view.

I have it on good authority that some of the errors that have taken place in the handling of the Lazarus situation on the NPO side of things are being handled. I believe TWP has maintained a good relationship with The Pacific for a long time now and personally do not wish to see that thrown away over what some in the NPO are calling an overreach by certain parties and a blatant clusterf*ck by others.

To clarify then, AMOM is not a member of the Pacific Senate at all and therefore does not speak for The Pacific at all. AMOM was a member of the Lazarus Senate and since the majority of the NS world seems to think that is somehow below the status of the former then any clarification from any person in the NPO by default supersedes it, which my source certainly is.

First, be very clear, I have played NS the same way for longer than most here have been in the game. While I may have 'sources' in The Pacific I maintained very different policies in TWP, even if I always support Delegate's rights. I know many disagree with that method of play but when I started it was standard practise and I am nothing if not consistent. What I can say is that you are correct in that some of the core ideas are yours, but you are incorrect in assuming that the application of those ideas were not being discussed elsewhere behind closed doors from the onset. As far as AMOM is concerned, simply being the first person to point out a thing does not necessarily give you ownership or authority over that thing. In my opinion, as a citizen of TWP, it looks to me like he spoke out of turn and forced the hand of others that may have preferred a more subtle approach. Just an opinion mind you.