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    New Theme Chatter

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    2 minutes ago, Westwind said:

    We could have The Sacred Order of the West Pacific as a separate institution from the government for example. Has it's own theme, with a TWP historical basis. Grants titles, has an NS ideology...

    We don't need the Delegacy to manage our own affairs and policies, we would continue to recognize the sitting Delegate. Seven former TWP Delegates are members of The Sacred Order, including two current Guardians. The Delegate could join The Sacred Order and still maintain their own government and theme.

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    The Grand Inquisitor, westwind__683874t2.jpgWestwind of all_good_people__453083t2.jpgAll Good People

    - The Cardinal of the Eternal Dungeons, yy4u__378593t2.jpgYy4u
    - The Cardinal of Chocolate Righteousness, darkesia__894830t2.jpgDarkesia
    - The Cardinal Protector of the West, wickedly_evil_people__143493t2.jpgWickedly evil people
    - The Cardinal of the Most Evil, bhang_bhang_duc__332162t2.pngBhang Bhang Duc

    Non-World Assembly Delegate tao_the_watcher__391223t2.pngTAO the Watcher, Unquestioning Raconteur of the West.

    TWP Military:

    Members of The Sacred Order that serve in the TWP Military are entitled to the rank of:

    Knights of the Sacred Order

     

    Granted Titles and Positions of The Sacred Order

    The Bishop of The Forbidden, Holy Keeper of the Pantheon of Flags, Tweedy
    Holy Minister of The Sacred Order for Silly Walks, tunapocalypse__196495t2.jpgTunapocalypse
    Champion Commander of the Knights of the Sacred Order, Archsium
    Knight of the Sacred Order- mediobogdum__150045t2.jpgMediobogdum

    Acolytes:

    Cleansed Seeker of The First Circle:

    - mediobogdum__150045t2.jpgMediobogdum

    Former members:

    The Bishop of the Grand Assembly -  benjamin_mark__923312t2.jpgBenjamin Mark
    Holy Minister For World Assembly Affairs - Douria 
    Holy Minister For Foreign Affairs, - The fifth imperium (aka God Emperor on our forum)
    Holy Deputy Minister For Foreign Affairs - Arcovea (Karland on our forum)
    Holy Minister For Domestic Affairs - Vulcan prime

     

     

    I would feel honored to become the eight former delegate member of The Sacred Order. I think it was around there that I started to have contact with TWP significantly and I always admired The Sacred Order.

    New Theme Chatter

    in The Lounge

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    17 hours ago, Big Bad Badger said:

    Honestly this entire process has left a really bad taste in my mouth for the way our region is governed. Perhaps it is time to discuss a second forum government to give the residents a voice. As WW has pointed out, it has happened in the past.

    I was feeling and thinking something similar. Perhaps not a full government, I was thinking more on the line of a Hall of Nations, separate from the existing off-site institutions, intended to bring people together and with no goals for the delegacy. Wanna chat about it?

    17 hours ago, Saint Mark said:

    You were the one who set up the current government structure based upon what already existed in TWP, Badger.

    Recognizing when one's own creation has surpassed one or has become disappointing IS a form of Wisdom.

    17 hours ago, Ark said:

    So when the delegate doesn’t govern the way you want, you just decide to change the government? I can’t believe a simple theme change is enough for a forum admin to threaten to create a new forum government. 

    I don't think this is a threat, it is a statement of intent. You live in TWP Ark, the ONE AND ONLY region in NS where you could see a group of disfranchised inhabitants come together, form a new institution of any sort, take advantage of the existing off site forums instead of creating new ones (and hence avoiding a whole can of worms of issues) and find their own way to build, live and enjoy community. If this threatens you, man, I think perhaps TWP is not the right place for you. This was the hardest part for me to learn. 

    17 hours ago, Fujai said:

    We need change, not replacement. While I love me a good ol' fashioned revolution, an honest discussion about present (and past) governments not being very responsive to the people is going to get the region further than suggesting a second government. This topic doesn't need any more discussion; it will only create needless divisiveness.

    I don't disagree that we don't need a revolution. But the art of conversation between two opposing parties implies that both of them are willing to move towards a more center-position. You get close to me as I get close to you.

    The party in this situation that is not comfortable with the current proposal made a reach by requesting a simple middle-ground solution, and the other party didn't budged a millimeter. What conversation could be held?. 

    17 hours ago, Saint Mark said:

    I can't believe the fuss over some fun window dressing. Does Osiris enslave Hebrews? Is Balder raiding monasteries? Is The Pacific feeding Christians to the lions? All of these regions, and many more (and us many times in the past) have themes and are still the kinds of regions they are because of the people there.

    The last time a new windows dressing was purchase at my house, my wife picked an option, may in-law picked an option (RIP), I picked an option, and then we discussed keeping the "Neither of the above" as a valid option. That won, and we went for a different approach. If this "theme" is as light as a Windows Dressing, why was it so hard for you to accept the possibility of a "neither of the above" and a more global selection process?? It seems to me you are down-playing now what you previously up-played... (damn made up words, damn them)

    9 hours ago, Neenee said:

    So, really, the way I see it, the worst thing that happens with this is people are cranky, it doesn't work, and Halo adjusts it. The best is that it's actually fun and new people get active on some level, participating.

    Or, as it is happening in this case, the powers that be held themselves tight to their idea despite the fact that there are serious and rational doubts about it. Why wouldn't this happen later? For all we know, and the evidence present, your "Halo adjusts it" may not be a real thing, given that they weren't ready or willing to adjust the selection process - which is also the most adjustable part with less work.

    Anyway, as I say, I respect the delegate and his authority, that doesn't means I need to agree with any of what is done.

    Furthermore, I'm not even part of the Hall of Nations so I guess I shouldn't even have the right to mess with this, according to the way things have been handled so far... As WW says, my opinion doesn't matter.

    New Theme Chatter

    in The Lounge

    Posted

    57 replies during a 5 day discussion between about 9 players is not "a discussion at lenght" nor a "most people"

     

    You have the right to do this, lets just not pretend it is a public driven thing when it isn't. I am all for making clear what is clear. 

     

    You are merely taking the opinion of a few in something you already decided to go with, but there isn't any real option. Let's not fool ourselves. 

     

    I do wonder, if you are so sure "most people" supports this, why didnt you take it to an in game poll, make it official, and add the no change option

     

    That would have been the fire test to your supposed massive support. 

    New Theme Chatter

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    8 hours ago, Saint Mark said:

    I promise that whichever theme is chosen, I will take my time implementing it, using it only as a starting point to come up with something that is uniquely TWP. My thought is that I will form an implementation committee to advise me on this so that I receive a broader range of ideas. No plan will make everyone happy, but my goal will certainly be to put in place something that at least most of us can be proud of.

    If you are going to do this by vote, why not add the option to REMAIN as we ARE? Would that be something you will be willing to do? Seems fair to me...

    New Theme Chatter

    in The Lounge

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    On 1/15/2019 at 9:10 AM, Big Bad Badger said:

    I really don't think any of the themes speak to me.  I kind of like the laid back beach vision of TWP that I have always had.  Tahiti is how I always imagined TWP.  Not an imperial dynasty or kingdom. 

    The idea of changing the flag seems...unTWP like.  The traditional setting sunburst is iconic and has been the TWP banner for....a really long time.  

    Furthermore, I haven't seen a compelling reason to change it.

    I guess what really seems...odd to me is if it is done through the hall of nations.  Then we will be voting on a theme change for the entire region with like 15 people voting... I understand the concept of Delegate supremacy and all.  But I think that this is going a little far.

    I vote for tradition!

    I must say this echoes what I mostly feel about it. I don't like gimmicks, as they are easy to derail and harder to maintain. We already have a laid back culture which is easy to go and learn, get used to, etc.


    Furthermore, the themes proposes seem forced to me... Not natural or native... I'm not a fan.

    I also vote for tradition tbh

    TWP regional branding

    in The Lounge

    Posted

    I like it a lot Fujai. And it seems to me you used some of the concepts of what I used to have during my delegacy? Or was that accidental?

    If this is formally adopted by TWP, let me know so I can edit the current Dispatch with the list of Delegates to show proper branding.

    Newspaper Editor Wanted!

    in Archived Threads

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    On 7/24/2018 at 6:58 PM, Westwind said:

    Beware of those 'other realms'. Especially RL. I was an editor in RL in the 70's/80's/90's. ;)

    (this is not an application)

    So late to reply... But curiously enough I was also RL editor of a small monthly magazine we ran on the Physics School of my University from 2002 to 2008. We called it "La QuantiTica" (Quantum + Tico being the usual reference to Costa Ricans in latin america).

    It started as a single 8x17 sheet of paper folded in the middle, 4 pages of content, and the last one was similarly created with 16 pages. We ran articles on current research in the Uni's research centers, news from the School staff and the Students Association staff, "Envelope Physics" challenges, scientific humour and weird fringe-science histories.

    I edited and compiled it all in PAINT at the start, as I had no other tools back then! I didn't even had a computer, did it all in Internet Cafes. I loved it... 

    I think I should have been journalist...

    I have an idea!

    in The Lounge

    Posted

    Just for the record... During my tenure we USED a standard format for all regional dispatches, which was coproduced by Drachmaland and myself:

    I actually used it for the official dispatches (and just recently re-used it):
     

    https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1022734
    https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=607754
    https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=536247

    I'm not saying you should use this one, but it has been done before, you can leverage that one or start one from scratch. But I agree with the idea of a common theme.

     

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