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The above quote is from Mr Llamas and I need to rant a bit about it. I believe you are missing a very important point about your efforts, Llamas. You have been proposing multiple acts and the response from TWPers is "zzzzZZZZzzzzz." Of course your stuff hasn't been seconded! Seconding something in this environment is a waste of time that is frankly insurance against anything getting done. I truly, truly appreciate everyone's efforts to help wake TWP's community. But many who are putting effort are doing so with a template designed in other regions. TWP has a culture that you can't just undo with a bunch of words on the forum. We're lazy about legislation. We can each give you reasons about why that is so. Those reasons will be as varied and individualiszed as each player. But part of what brought us together is that we don't WANT complicated. We WANT simple and efficient. We're incredibly enthusiastic and active when it comes to things that are perceived to be fun. We do not see voting on legislation as fun (see above). Either make it fun or as simple and efficient as possible so we can move onto the fun part. We are shockingly practical. We realize there needs to be rules and structure, especially if we are to grow the community and participation in that community. But again... unnecessary complications under the guise of "being deomocratic" are going to hit this region like a lead balloon and people will simply ignore you. I understand your feelings may be bruised by lack of enthusiasm, but this is TWP. Make the rules. Build the departments. Run quick elections with the 7 people who care. Then get to work making the departments fun and fill them with people. As the region grows you will have need of increasingly complicated rules and you will find TWP enthusiastically supporting things that you previously couldn't get us out of a coma to attend. That is when you add things: When there is need for it, not before. We want you here. We need you here. But if you continue to wait for us to be enthused about procedure for the sake of procedure, you will wait forever. Here ends my rant/pep talk.