Elegarth

I actually voted 5 minutes before it ended, when I was reminded on IRC that I haven't voted. You and I both had 5 days to vote, bro. I honestly didn't realized you haven't till I counted.

It has been mentioned by many members of the HGA that we should not hold open embassies with NPO and NPL due to the current situation. We could, should the HGA decide it, close both in-forum embassies as a show of our condemnation of the actions they've taken. However, we must also remember that currently TWP is allied to NPO at least, and this most also be taken into consideration. We must also remember we don't control the in-game embasies, Lazarus embasy having been already closed. We should also consider that TWP policy will usually consider the elected delegate of a region as the lawful holder of that position. (I must be clear I'm not making judgements, just establishing some facts to be considered). Some of the proposals include the closure of our in-forum embassies with them, or with 1 of them, etc. At a point, it was even proposed to open official relations with the LUM (which currently has no representative region, which could also complicate that... why don't they get a region meanwhile and use it to legitimize themselves while trying to take back the Laz delegacy, I dunno...) I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on the matter. Let's try to be logical and rational instead of hot blooded or emotional? The later seems to close down discussions rather shortly and without much result :/

Just one thing, as per this law: http://www.westpacific.org/forums/index.php?/topic/319-current-laws-and-legislation/?p=21889 The leader of the Army is selected by the Prime Minister, without delegate intervention.

Never said all the guilt was his, but to pretend he is 100% innocent is going way too deep into naivete (mispelling?)

Really Llamas, I was senator of the NPO, and Feux confirmed it many times, in Senator channels, Funk was his right hand. I dunno why they ended up separated, honestly, he suddenly just disappeared. THe few times I talked to him - Funk - he always claimed he was a Francoist, and he was even looking forward to become a part of the NPO Senate. Why he changed his views, I don't know. It is ok to change. But he WAS Feux bestie, mate.

ELEGARTH: 10 (Nox, Recuecn, Little Sealand, Archsium, Mediobogdum, Westwind, cluntobone, Yy4u, Eli, Elegarth) LLAMAS: 10(Ike, A fish in the Sea, Hariko, lemonpledge, punkdaddy, LLamas, Cormac, Sad-States, Pestarzt, URAP) ABSTAIN: 0 INVALID VOTES: 3 (Fealess, Tomb, Soguisoguikawaiiland) As per our General Election Guidelines Act: This mean we will have to start a new voting, between Llamas and Elegarth. In order for further ideas to be debetable, I will start this NEW vote on Wednesday, so voth Llamas and I have 2 more days to extend or clear questions for the campaigns. I will run this election, I'll make my resignation effective one we get a new selected Prime Minister. CAMPAIGNING IS HENCE OPEN AGAIN

ELEGARTH: 10 (Nox, Recuecn, Little Sealand, Archsium, Mediobogdum, Westwind, cluntobone, Yy4u, Eli, Elegarth) LLAMAS: 10(Ike, A fish in the Sea, Hariko, lemonpledge, punkdaddy, LLamas, Cormac, Sad-States, Pestarzt, URAP) ABSTAIN: 0 INVALID VOTES: 3 (Fealess, Tomb, Soguisoguikawaiiland) As per our General Election Guidelines Act: This mean we will have to start a new voting, between Llamas and Elegarth. In order for further ideas to be debetable, I will start this NEW vote on Wednesday, so voth Llamas and I have 2 more days to extend or clear questions for the campaigns. I will run this election, I'll make my resignation effective one we get a new selected Prime Minister. CAMPAIGNING IS HENCE OPEN AGAIN

Noted, will update the roster later.

Your adolescent attitude is sort of boring. If you read again (to be someone who sends other to read properly, you seem not to do it), I ASKED YOU A QUESTION, without implying anything. As a citizen of TNP, I have no criticizing of their government except their excessive complexity, which can be perplexing to some new players if they don't realize is better to focus on a particular area first than trying to learn the whole system. You, sir, see ghosts where there aren't. Perhaps you are scared of your own ghosts?

Welcome to the HGA, DYP. Consider yourself accepted.

Noted!

From what I read, the party's goal is to turn TWP into the style of the bureaucratic gargantuan government of TNP?

Welcome to TWP! Invision can also be used to create a nightmare forum, trust me. Is not so much the SW as the capacity of our admins that made it nice

Are you a fool Llamas? Funk was for years Feux right hand in Lazarus.

Consider yourself accepted

You aren't any indeed and I'll appreciate you don't do that again. Your disregard for our laws is disgusting llamas...

Thanks Eli! And it is closed... we may as well not vote anymore Or held the vote to make sure

Same here. With 3 members supporting this, then, we have formal discussion open, which should last for 5 days, and hence close next Wednesday when the vote will be held, unless there is a new prime minister who dictates a new declaration OR more people seconds this, in which case the discussion time can be shortened

The forums are actual property

Thank you, Eli. Please remember to vote in the Elections, they close next Monday

Welcome back! As per the other thread, your vote is now valid.

In a Spanish Textbook?

NVM, I've checked some legal documents about this sort of membership issues and the issue is that OUR laws are not properly set up in this respect. Due to this, since the error is in the law and not in the member, the resolution should be given IN FAVOR of the member, hence, please have Ike sign in the thread with his active TWP nation, and he will be elegible to vote in this election. The same CAN'T apply to those who CTEd, however, since they really DID NOT HAD a nation on TWP whatsoever. CLOSED!

It makes sense tbh. But what about those who get CTEd? Say, Tomb does not usually come here, but what about CTEd players in general?

Noted