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Well, this should definitely be interesting.

I think that this idea has a fair amount of merit. By having less OOC forums, you put more focus on your government forums, but at the same time you don't waste any space. OOC forums are worth having, of course, but in this case the forums have similar purposes and combining them would also make them look larger than two moderately sized forums.

I concur. I decided to pop by here and talk a bit because it definitely seems like there is some potential for major change in TWP. I for one think that drastic action would be fun in this case, but ultimately what happens is in the hands of the people here. If you guys want an extra hand in achieving whatever it is you chose to pursue, I am more than happy to provide a bit of assistance, for what it's worth.

Hopefully they game's administrators will fix influence sooner rather than later.

I left my filters open because I like knowing whom is trying to become the next big UCR. I also like to know what arguments they're using to sell themselves.

The anarchy would not be permanent. It would only last until a new generation truly interested in replacing it with order stood up and started putting in the work necessary to do so, and it would be easy for them to make waves in this proposed setting. The anarchic environment would naturally create a demand for dedication and activity that currently isn't present here, and the guardians' ability to contain the "anarchy" until that happens means that you wouldn't have to worry too much going wrong. Once it happened, you would move forward with the new establishment, and activity, interest, and dedication would be inherent to such a thing. The idea is to recreate the kind of atmosphere that happens when a feeder is first born, but this environment would include safeguards* against oppressive regimes and tyranny rising up: a new government would have to appear eventually. A super-region can only last so long without a government before another one shows up. The new government would be naturally forged by new blood. The experiment would essentially allow a new government to arise here that the guardians and everyone else on this board would later join, but since you wouldn't be its creators, you would fit naturally into the category of "guardian." By that, I mean that guardians would protect the region from undesirable delegacy changes and would work as advisors in the new government unless they felt compelled to pursue deeper participation. It's worth reiterating that if anything undesirable happens, it can still be reversed thanks to the lopsided amount of influence on your side. NOTE: * The safeguards are the guardians and their influence.

This contained "anarchy" would only last until people stepped up to try to replace it with something, and that's something that would eventually happen. It always has in the past. A constant threat of invasion, believe it or not, can do wonders for activity: the thing that really matters is that no long-term damage can possibly be done. The guardians and the current distribution of influence in TWP both ensure that no long-term trouble can occur as a result of this experiment, and the answer to the question you asked is something that the guardians would have to decide for themselves. As for Eli, I know he is a competent player who is knowledgable about this region's workings and the game as a whole, and perhaps he'd be willing to buy into this experiment if he understands that it can be reversed if it doesn't work out in a desirable way. The current government of TWP has been here for years and, as someone said earlier in this thread, the people behind it aren't going anywhere: the worst case scenario is that the experiment doesn't work out, the guardians take control again, and TWP returns to its current state. There isn't really anything happening here right now, and if you've got nothing, you've also got nothing to lose. These people are clearly trying to ameliorate their current condition, and this discussion is an attempt to plan their efforts to improve the region. They aren't complaining. They've acknowledged a problem and are actively seeking solutions to it herein.

The beauty of the beast is that Eli et al are absolutely capable of restoring this if need be, and there is nothing to say that Yy4u couldn't run in a delegacy election in the "new government." He, like you said, is active, talkative, and approachable to new nations, and that makes him a great candidate for the position: this idea would mostly address the problems that come from the people who agree that they aren't active enough to really run the show for now. I agree that TWP isn't dead, and that only the forums are. That is precisely why an appeal to the in-game region like this would be made. Delegacy changes, the RMB discussion that would ensue, et cetera would catch their attention. Furthermore, you could always use the "mass telegram" feature that is now available to delegates to inform the masses of this effort in hopes of intriguing their interest. The people are there—the question is whether or not they'll be given an intriguing project to contribute to. I have observed that recruiting people to "talk on the forums" is always a good idea, but the forums need something that intrigues people to stick around and get involved more extensively. I feel that something like this could be the trick. I know you remember the coup by Devonitians in TSP, and there were a lot of people who got involved there at that time; of course, some of them were there to defend the region, but a lot of them got involved because they were interested in shaping a community that was obviously looking to move forward in the aftermath of the chaos. You could possibly replicate that effect in TWP but without having to sacrifice stability or cause true chaos, insofar as you could plan the resignations and subsequent re-tarting* so that it is clear that you aren't going to tolerate nonsense. NOTE: *Re-tarting would be done for the sake of showing people that you guys aren't going to tolerate nonsense. You want an active community and fresh ideas, not any hijinks. You wouldn't jump back up to your old totals, of course, but you would aim to have a relatively average amount of endorsements.

This is a radical suggestion, and I'm only posting it for rhetorical and thought-provoking purposes: if you can't maintain an active government here, perhaps you could drop it and see what happens. By "drop it," I mean have the guardians drop WA, and announce that TWP is an anarchy that anyone who can garner the support of the masses may lead the region. There are definitely a lot of people out there who would be interested in the opportunity to run a government here, and doing this could potentially pull in a lot of interest internally and externally. It would be like a forced rebirth of sorts. Remember how much interest there was in Osiris and Balder when they didn't have governments? The attempts to organize a government in those regions were run largely overseen by TITO and the UDL because they had to use their WA manpower to prevent any tyrants from appearing, but that wouldn't be needed in TWP because of the influence that the guardians have acquired over the years. The current "old guard" could participate in the new government, but the fact that it "dropped" power in the current one would make it blatantly clear that you guys aren't going to be the active people working in the fields. You have enough experience to work adequately as advisors to the new guard, and this whole endeavor might have some merit as an experiment. The guardians, rather than being expected to put in most of the work, could simply serve as guides and advisors to the new blood, and the guardians would prevent it from rolling onto a dangerous path. If something goes wrong they can jump into action to ensure that order is maintained: no newcomer would have the ability to kick any of you out for years, so any nonsense could be stomped down quickly. If people try to throw the region in a direction that the current guardians don't feel is in the community's best interests, you have more than enough influence necessary to take the region back, and the conflict that would ensue would bring a lot of activity and interest here. If the people who take over don't perform actions that are undesirable, it would fine and you could work from there. Of course, it's also a bit nutty, but that's the fun of it. I'm not posting this to march into TWP, tell you to abolish your government, and insult any of you, by the way: I have the utmost respect for the people and establishment here and simply enjoy discussing unusual ideas and hypotheticals. You're probably some of the few people on NS whom are actually capable of pulling something like this off, too.

You've aroused my interest, lol.

Anarchy is always the best choice.

I didn't realize that you guys had switched forums, and I thought that I'd stop by and say "hello." This looks nice. How are things over here in TWP?