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A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy

Proposed by: roavin__362976t2.jpgRoavin

The Security Council,

Believing that tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy, a nation founded in the earliest days of the South Pacific, has gone beyond the call of duty in their phenomenal service to their home region,

Recalling a natural disaster in 2003 that facilitated a coup d'etat of the newly formed Coalition of the South Pacific by The xyz affair and the resulting dissolution of the Coalition's primogenital Delegate nation Killer monkeys, a crisis through which tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy valiantly led restoration efforts by seeking foreign assistance through diplomacy, establishing a new regional forum, and salvaging the Coalition's Charter that had previously been stored in Killer monkeys' jurisdiction,

Further recalling tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy's subsequent roles in defeating coup d'etat attempts of the Coalition by Milograd in 2013, in which tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy tirelessly engaged fellow nations to garner support, and by hileville__472971t2.jpgHileville in 2016, in which tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy was materially involved in negotiations and, following the failure of the attempt, was entrusted by the region to lead a special Cabinet overseeing reconciliation efforts and a Great Council,

Impressed by the varied positions, both elected and appointed, that tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy has held with distinction in the Coalition of the South Pacific, including Minister of Intelligence, Member of the Council for State Security, Member of the Council on Regional Security, Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Vice President, Special Advisor to the Cabinet, Chair of the Assembly, Editor-in-Chief of South Pacific Independent News and later the South Pacific Independent News Network, and most notably the World Assembly Delegate, holding that position a total of three times for a combined 777 days,

Highlighting that tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy has played a key role in security, both of the Coalition itself as well as the nations contained therein, starting with their role as Minister of Intelligence in 2004 and continuing to this day as tenured member of the Council on Regional Security,

Noting further that the regional forums of the Coalition have been supervised by tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy for most of the Coalition's existence (from 2003 to 2012 as well as from 2014 onwards),

Fascinated by tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy's relentless drive for grassroots democratic involvement of all nations in the South Pacific, the fruits of which are seen most notably in the innovative Local Council, now a core component of South Pacifican democracy, which encourages and allows all nations in the South Pacific to contribute to their governance without requiring membership on the regional forums,

Deeply convinced that their advice to up-and-coming nations, their pragmatic approaches to problem-solving, and their conviction in reaching decisions through consensus, have significantly shaped South Pacifican culture in immeasurably positive ways,

Grateful that a nation with such an astounding record of service to their region continues to be an inspiration to other nations both in the South Pacific and abroad,

Hereby Commends tsunamy__707018t2.pngTsunamy.

I vaguely remember Tsunamy holding the Delegacy of TSP at one point, but apart from that, I have no idea who he is or what he's achieved. This is inevitable when the nominee is only notable in one region and while that doesn't automatically exclude them from receiving a commendation, I feel as if the bar should be higher for GCRs. After all, everyone is going to know about TSP regardless of who the Delegate is, but people are only going to know about a UCR if the founder or Delegate has done something right (or something incredibly wrong, but we don't talk about that).

Anyway, based on our current relationship with The South Pacific, I'm not sure how diplomatically wise it is for us to support a proposal that seeks to commend someone solely for their service to TSP. I'm afraid to say that I'm really not sure on this one as I can't find any compelling reason to support this, but I can't find any compelling reason to oppose this either. Therefore, my advice would be to leave it up to the citizens of TWP to decide.

 

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Reading this proposal, I see nothing going against the cause to commend them. They seem to have done many things in their region that does hold merit, and they do seem worthy. While I agree that the bar should be held high for commendations, especially for GCRs, I think they've passed the bar and this cause is worthy of support. I advise to vote "FOR."

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8 hours ago, Atlae said:

This is at vote, and it appears as Dave has voted against.

Partially personal and partially logical reasons.
Based on the way I and others in TWP have been treated by TSP leadership, it would be extremely difficult for me to vote in favor of this. Plus, from a GP standpoint, while Tsunamy has done a lot for the region, IMO commendations should be given for more than just working in one region. Membership in a TSP Hall Of Fame definitely, not a gamewide commendation.

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5 hours ago, Davelands said:

Based on the way I and others in TWP have been treated by TSP leadership, it would be extremely difficult for me to vote in favor of this. 

 

Are there any examples of ill-treatment between the two regions that provide reasons for this?

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Plus, from a GP standpoint, while Tsunamy has done a lot for the region, IMO commendations should be given for more than just working in one region. Membership in a TSP Hall Of Fame definitely, not a game-wide commendation.

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You are quite right on that. They all seem to be TSP-centric. But, they are still actions that are commendable, no matter where they might be. Just because someone may defeat a terrorist in Iraq or in America doesn't make it only commendable to that specific country they were in.

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1 hour ago, Willania Imperium said:

Are there any examples of ill-treatment between the two regions that provide reasons for this?

How about the fact that Dave was Minister of Foreign Affairs (i.e. the guy whose job it is to keep track of TWP's relations with other regions)? Is that a good enough reason for you? 

For a less snarky answer: TSP supported the illegitimate, userite defenderist regime in Lazarus known as the 'Celestial Union', while TWP supported and continues to support the native and legitimate regime in the region under the rule of Funkadelia. It is worth noting that TSP meddled in the internal affairs of Lazarus, a fellow GCR, by sending in its troops to overthrow its rightful government, while TWP, despite (or rather, because of) its pro-Funkadelia stance, recognised Lazarus' self-determination and thus refused to interfere in the matter. If I remember correctly, it was for this reason that our embassy was withdrawn.

That is not all, however. TRR was also quite vocally supportive of the Celestial Union, yet their embassy remains. Our disagreements with TSP, from my understanding, date back to long before you, Dave or even myself were around. I'm not aware of the exact details as I admittedly don't pay close attention to our foreign affairs, but thankfully for both of us, Badger has provided a very good summary of the appalling behaviour orchestrated by TSP's leadership:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=28749299

I also don't remember the exact threads as there were so many of them, but during the whole Lazarus scandal, several individuals pointed out admissions from key leaders in TSP that they had plans to infiltrate every GCR and impose a defenderist ideology. Such plots are unacceptable and fly in the face of regional sovereignty.

That good enough for you? ;) 

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