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  1. 9 points
    Saint Mark

    Honors of The West Pacific

    Today, a new theme is inaugurated in The West Pacific, one that honors our traditions and institutions and builds on these to provide new excitement and opportunities. This ceremony is not about me, but about you, the residents who make this the best region in NationStates. Therefore, I use this occasion to recognize some of those who have made The West Pacific what it is today and those who have begun the work of bringing it to a new glory. Merit is awarded in The West Pacific. The greatness of our region is the result of the imagination, talentand work of many individuals over many years contributing to our common good. These Honors are one way we can show our appreciation to those dedicated residents. As today is the first Honors ceremony in The West Pacific under the current theme, it will be longer than most will be in the future. There are many achievers that must be recognized. Honors Of The West Pacific Granted by His Imperial Majesty, Marcarius Halo Rahl, The Holy Principality of Saint Mark, Dragon Emperor of The West Pacific on the first day of March in the year two-thousand and nineteen. The recognition of merit is one of the pillars of The West Pacific. These dedicated residents of our region, by applying their unique talents with hard work and imagination to the betterment of The West Pacific have earned high praise. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ First, it is with great affection and admiration that I grant Neenee the titles of Dowager Empress of the West Pacific For her dedicated service as our last Delegate, Chancellor of The Hall of Peers So that she may continue to serve the region with her wise counsel, and Celestial Sage As one who appointed the current Delegate. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Next, I would like to honor, Davelands, the Delegate that preceded her and who has done so much in so many different roles for our region both before and after his delegacy, by granting him the title of Royal Prince of The West Pacific. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The next honor is granted to Big Bad Badger for his inspired leadership during his past delegacy which led to the creation of The Manners among many other regional improvements and institutions. He is made a Royal Duke of The West Pacific. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In recognition of his past work as the Delegate during whose tenure I was born in The West Pacific, for having started several of our fond traditions and for always being our Delegarth, I grant Elegarth the honor of Royal Duke of The West Pacific. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In recognition of his aid to The West Pacific multiple times as our transition Delegate, and honoring his many years of loyally serving as one of our region’s Guardians, I grant Mediobogdum the title Royal Duke of The West Pacific. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Grateful for the chocolate she shares and appreciative of her wise counsel, and in recognition of her service as a past Delegate, I grant Darkesia the title of Duchess of Hainan. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In gratitude for his many years of time, talent and treasure in supporting our region, and especially the forum, I award Southern Eureka with the title of Duke of Chongming. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In recognition of his many contributions to the region since antiquity, including his terms as our Delegate and his support as The West Pacific’s unofficial historian, I grant All Good People the title of Duke of Zhoushan. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In gratitude for his assistance as a Guardian, and in recognition of his past contributions as a Delegate of The West Pacific, I bestow upon Yy4u, the title Marquis of Donghai. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In appreciation for his service to The West Pacific as its Delegate multiple times, Wickedly Evil People is granted the title Marquis of Shangchuan. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In recognition of his past Delegacy, and fearful of his roofur madness, I bestow upon Bhang Bhang Duc the title of Marquis of Damang. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In gratitude for her loyal and dedicated service as The Commander of The West Pacific Armed Forces and briefly as our Foreign Affairs Minister, and in appreciation for her willingness to delve enthusiastically into any project, I grant Kawaii Schoolgirl the title of Countess of Junshan. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In gratitude for his devoted service as Speaker of The Hall of Nations and Minister of Foreign Affairs, and in appreciation for his willingness to work for the region, I grant Arkadia Universalis the title of Earl of Ping. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In recognition of his work as our first Minister of Education, and in appreciation of his wise counsel, I grant Dalimbar the title of Baron of Zhifu. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In gratitude for his exceptional work in Internal Affairs, both past and present, and with appreciation for his wise counsel, I bestow upon Bran Astor the title of Baron of Hebao. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Orders of Xia Xia means someone with power who helps others in need. The Xia (pronounced shya) are the knights of The West Pacific. This is the highest non-peer honor a resident can receive. ~~~~~~~~~ Benevolent Order of Mencius: for extraordinary service to the people of TWP This is the highest of the Xia Orders. Those admitted to this Order today are: Southern Eureka For his years of Forum support Big Bad Badger For beginning The West Pacific’s transformation ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Imperial Order of The Dragon: for extraordinary service to The Emperor Those admitted to this Order today are: Kawaii Schoolgirl Arkadia Universalis Dalimbar Bran Astor These have demonstrated steadfast loyalty, wise counsel, constant vigilance, and an untiring willingness to serve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Martial Order of Ching Shih: for extraordinary service to TWPAF Those admitted to this Order today are: Kawaii Schoolgirl Chervil Altino These have been crucial to the restructuring and rebirth of the region’s armed forces. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Benevolent Order of The Three Perfections: for extraordinary service in The Arts Those admitted to this Order today are: Fujai Kawaii Bran Astor Yy4u These have demonstrated an uncanny talent in turning any request into a beautiful work of art.
  2. 8 points
    Altino

    Hey TWP I love you!

    Hey you guys! Sending some love out today! <3 I was talking to someone earlier today about a silly tag that we did with TWPAF back when Kawaii was Commander and I was just a First Commander in revenge on The Bee Movie! It brought back a lot of fun memories in TWP, so I wanted to share some of my favorite TWP times with you guys. The Spanish Inquisition - I've been on a ton of raids during my time on NS, but the most fun that I ever had with one was when Khanter helped us plan a big raid on Spanish-speaking regions. Like, ALL of the Spanish-speaking regions! We had just kicked off our pirate theme, so we needed to do something big and fun to really cement that direction, and between my Pirate Code, Ban's excellent Graphics, and Khanter's excitement to help with that raid, this put us in the perfect position to really sell it! I spent days hyping everyone up about a secret raid that we'd have coming up and screaming "¡SOMOS PIRATAS!" to anyone who would listen, Khanter made us a WFE all in Spanish for the raid, and Bran made us this cool image as a teaser: It ended up being a ton of fun and the beginning to my favorite military theme on NS! Punday Monday! - Listen, you guys, I am not in favor of puns, I'm honestly not, but thanks to Badger and Roavin have had to take on the title of Ocassional Punstress. Badger used to poke at me EVERY MONDAY to get my pun on with everyone on the RMB, and EVERY MONDAY I would grumble at him for it. But secretly, I gathered puns throughout the week and was always excited to post them and make all my friends groan! I don't think I ever ended up getting most likes for the best pun, but I'm pretty sure I came fairly close. Badgerbot - Idk how many of you know this, but when I first met Badger, I legitimately thought that he was a really, really well programmed chatbot. Something about his avatar, I don't know, seemed very botish to me! When I finally figured out that he was an actual person, I was really embarrassed, but had to tell him about it, and for the long day time after that I called him Badgerbot when I saw him! Eventually he created an actual BadgerBot to rule over TWP's Discord server and I was tickled pink! Now we have BadgerBot2.0 and it continues to be a weird, inside joke legacy that always makes me smile! Glitter Apprenticeship - Before I got really involved in TWPAF, I got really involved in TWP in the form of RMB shenanigans. This is where I met some of the old greats in TWP and learned to respect them! I was a wee noob, but I got friendly with BBD, YY, Medio, and a lot of the other Guardians at the time while I was there. I'm still upset that Medio didn't get unlocked until after I was done with TWPAF! I always wanted to raid with him. :c But my crowing achievement was one day convincing NeeNee to let me be her Glitter Apprentice. I spent like a week after that glittering everyone on the RMB and learning her ways. It was a great time. Bugging Forum Mods - I'm sorry to finally be admitting this, but I got... really into recruitment when I was running TWPAF and almost my entire motivation behind big numbers (besides pilers) was making tons and tons of posts in the mask request thread for the forum mods to have to do. :3 I just liked peeping in every day like "FIVE MORE MASKS FOR YOU, THANK YOU GUYS!" It was my own private little game. But every time I see someone join TWPAF now I get a little shot of glee that the mods will have to mask someone. xD Sorry. <3 Anyway, just sending out some love from me and Osiris! Hope everyone is doing well! What about you guys, do you have any really special memories with TWP that make you happy? What do y'all have going on!
  3. 7 points
    The bright light of dawn breaks over the ocean in the east, turning the sea red and orange and gold. In the temples, the priests light incense; in the palace, nobles begin to stir from their beds as servants continue their frantic preparations in the kitchens; in the streets, guards check and recheck the processional way and women drape banners of red and gold from windows. The day of the Emperor's enthronement is beginning. The Emperor himself has already been awake for hours; he and his attendants dressed in their ceremonial robes and rode to the Temple of the West long before dawn. Now, as the sun rises, the Emperor stands facing its golden rays, offering prayers to Heaven, in particular to the Jade Emperor Yuhuang Dadi and the Royal Mother of the West Wangmu Niangniang, for the success of his reign. Under their beneficence, he hoped that his dynasty would retain the Mandate of Heaven and prosper for centuries to come. Once the sun has risen and the ceremonial way has been prepared, the Emperor sets out from the temple towards Zijin Cheng, the Forbidden City. As he passes through the streets with his procession of guards and attendants, the masses of people cheer at his approach and bow at his passing. Children bounce on their toes to get a better look; in the future they will tell their grandchildren of this glorious and singular day. The Dragon Emperor Marcarius Halo Rahl enters the gates of the Forbidden City to the peal of drums, bo, and luo. In the courtyard stand ranks upon ranks of his warriors, TWPAF. They stand straight and proud as he passes; victory attends emperors with the Mandate of Heaven. The Emperor and his procession ascend the steps to the throne hall, where he enters first. Waiting at a side door is the Dowager Empress, NeeNee; she steps in after him. One by one members of the court enter, the most senior first, until the throne room is full. Only the space in front of the throne itself is empty, and the Emperor stands still and silent facing it as the room fills behind him. The room is silent, every man and woman there all but holding back breath. Seeing that all is ready, the Dowager Empress motions to the musicians, who begin a long, slow roll on the strings of the yangqin; the breathy xiao joins in next. The music crescendos and the Emperor walks forward to the throne. As he takes his rightful place, the Dowager Empress calls out his titles: His Imperial Majesty, Marcarius Halo Rahl, The Holy Principality of Saint Mark, Dragon Emperor of The West Pacific, Delegate, Son of Heaven, Moral Compass, Best Barista and Sovereign Sommelier. The officials of the court let out a shout, which is echoed first by the warriors in the courtyard and then on and on across the city as people hear the cries and know what they mean: the Emperor has ascended and taken his rightful throne. In the throne hall, the officials of the region line up to present their memorials of congratulation; the Venerable Sage beside the Emperor taking each scroll on his behalf to be opened at a later date. The Emperor then reads his ascension edict: http://www.westpacific.org/forums/index.php?/topic/3075-honors-of-the-west-pacific/ The festival in the palace will begin soon, once all final congratulations have been given and ceremonies completed. Out in the streets, dragon floats are being paraded to and fro to the sound of music and cheering. The celebrations will last almost until dawn the next day, with fireworks throughout the night. All across The West Pacific, cities will resound with them, their brilliance flickering over the towers and walls of the cities and the faces of the celebrants. A new era has begun.
  4. 7 points
    Darkesia

    New Theme Chatter

    Anything that drives healthy activity is a good thing IMHO. I see nothing wrong with an attempt to give the region a cultural theme and I applaud the creative work being done by the region's residents. That said. Can we get an option for an in-game theme that doesn't involve memorizing new titles, please? Can the Delegate and Ministers still have titles that clearly state what they do? the one thing that really irks me about the themed regions is the crazy titles everyone has. I need a glossary to figure out who has what job in Osiris for example.
  5. 6 points
    Kawaii

    New Theme Chatter

    Let me state for the record that TWP will never become anything even close to TEP. Let me also say that the idea that if TWP adopts a Japanese theme, that does not and should not ever be seen as a bad thing that will lead to an influx of memers, disrespectful types of any kind, or any kind of individual that we wouldn't normally banject on the reg. I think too many people have let the bad "weeaboo" kids ruin the image and idea of a Japanese theme, but it's important to remember that there's more to Japan than Anime and J-Pop, just as China isn't all about kung fu and Mauism. :^) I had an idea to adopt a fun and promising environment that reflected Japan's Bubble Economy of the 80's, complete with the aesthetics as you can see by my flag. (And I'm aware that's not exactly "imperial Japan but it's what I was feeling so I went with it lol.) To give some background on the general culture of the Bubble Era, it was a time in Japan when its economy was at its peak and commercial success was high for many people. There are a certain feel and mood that's strongly present in many media depicting 80's Japan, that paints a picture of the good old days. It wasn't too far off from what the 80's was like here in the US. I wanted to try and take the key aspects that made Bubble Era special and incorporate them into a theme, allowing us to leave a good first impression with those who come to our region. I wouldn't have sold them short either. I would do anything to give them something reminiscent of the high spirits and energy that was everpresent in 80's Japan. This coupled with a nice retro look would pull in many people. Especially as it relates to Japan. A lot more people now than ever are falling in love with Late 20th Century Japanese culture, it's been growing in popularity for over the last decade, and doesn't show any sign of stopping; nostalgia is very easy to market. Now with all that being said, TWP wouldn't be "80's Japan," it would be TWP but with the characteristics and overall environment present in 80's Japan. I agree with keeping our coastal beach idea, but adding in a more fun, active, and promising vibe to it along with retro imagery. Anyway, that's my two-cents as it relates to my theme. I know the other two are quite different. But now I've spilled my beans and explained my thought process with my theme a bit, hopefully, it may be to more people's liking.
  6. 6 points
    Darkesia

    New Theme Chatter

    Just a note: What ever you decide, Halo. ~for the love of all that is holy, I'm begging you; do not go with anime or kpop or any of that weeb stuff. I can happily adjust to almost anything but that. I can't bear the discord channels that have been consumed by it.~ But in reality, you are the Delegate. It's your choice. This sort of seeps into the other area of your changes. (The desire to add a Senate level to the off-site government structure) If you are waiting for complete consensus on something, it will never happen. So, if you think the peanut gallery is being difficult now, just wait until you try to tie legislation to arguments from two separate bodies full of strong, intelligent opinionated players. I am not passing judgement of right or wrong. I'm just reminding us all of the difference between expectations and reality.
  7. 6 points
    Dalimbar

    New Theme Chatter

    Howdy! I want to start by saying both thank you and f--- you to Ark, Kawaii and OT for making this a hard choice. I like all three options and will be weighing each carefully in the next couple of days. But why the theme change at all? Why not stick with tradition? Well, what even is traditional for us? As Westy mentioned above, we have taken plenty of different directions on how we wish to theme our government. We started out as one of the key pillars of the ADN, and proudly were one of the most effective forces in defenderdom, never mind in-game. We experimented with different themes since then, be it a committee-structure when Eli couped that one time to the various themes Westy listed above. We have had a great past couple of years and I don't think anyone wants to tarnish that legacy. Rather, updates and new priorities, such as the theme, peerage, point system, and Ministry of Education, can be made to help make us a better region. What doesn't change are our core values. Delegate supremacy, meritocracy and community do not change. What matters most is that we have a fun time here and allow newer folks the chance to feel welcome and able to learn from those of us who should honestly be NS dead by now. There is a lot of work to be done on both sides, myself included. I like the idea of a new theme. Right now as I mentioned above I'm not sure which way I'll vote, but I like having options. Our Delegate has made it clear that not all presented aspects will be included in the final theme design, which is good because we can talk about what is good about the general idea and what might need to be nixed. I echo the concerns raised about changing the titles of Delegate and Guardian. I certainly don't mind there to be a title made for them and other ranks, but I probably will still use Guardian as my job title We don't need to go hardcore on the titles, but it is nice to have our own regional way of describing who we are. What we get with that is more of a cultural identity. I'm not necessarily saying that we'd get up to such status with a theme change, but I preferred the communist-themed Pacific over the bunny-themed Pacific.
  8. 6 points
    Saint Mark

    New Delegate Announcement!

    Greetings to my fellow TWP citizens, our allies and friends and the regions and nations of NS. I am honored that Neenee has chosen me to succeed her as Delegate of TWP. She, Badger and Davelands have been my mentors and best friends ever since I joined. I have always had their support and am grateful for their promise of continued support in my new role. While I am excited for this opportunity to lead my native region, I am also humbled by the thought of trying to build upon the accomplishments of the legendary Delegates that have preceded me. If Neenee hadn’t been couped by rl, her tenure in TWP would have been magnificent. While not completely without experience, I know that I am an infant compared to many of my peers here. The Holy Principality of Saint Mark was “born” in TWP a mere two and a half years ago. TWP has been my primary region, my home, ever since. During this time, I have represented TWP as an ambassador to several of our allies and was the principle author of The Etiquette of The Hall of Nations while I served as the first Speaker of The Hall. I was Minister of Foreign Affairs and am currently a Guardian and Minister for Recruiting and Citizenship. Maybe because of my early focus as an ambassador, I have been a bit of a cosmopolitan. Even though this may have competed with my TWP duties at times (sorry Badger ), it allowed me to make many friends throughout NS. I serve or have served as a Priest of Osiris, an Arbiter of TEP, Pyo Sage of Karma, a regional officer of The Sasquatch Republic and Archbishop of Albion. TWP is a friendly, active, snarky GCR that believes in the supremacy of the Delegate and awards merit. Neenee is our glittery goddess, all of our chocolate belongs to Dark and a pirate shanty stirs our blood. I have always found TWP to be a good fit for me. I consider myself friendly and imaginative … my snark could use work. NS is a game and games are meant to be entertainment. It is most important then that TWP be fun! I pledge to do my best to always make it so. I also pledge to do my best to make TWP a safe place to play. There are many minors among us and it is our responsibility to protect them. Even adults, though, deserve to be treated with respect. Bullying and intolerance will never be acceptable in TWP. Toxicity is why I rarely hang out in GP (although I guess I’ll be around a lot more now … maybe I can help set a gentler tone? ). I see no point in digging up old grudges or launching the same old personal attacks. I will always try to conduct myself with civility and kindness, and will expect the same behavior from the people of TWP. Finally, it is my opinion that, as a feeder, TWP should strive to educate the new players about the world they have entered. To that end, I will also try to improve the educational opportunities in our region. I have a lot of ideas that will help us achieve these goals, but TWP isn’t just the Delegate. A very strong central government, be it an absolute delegacy or an oligarchy, can lead to stagnation. That is why it is crucial to award innovation and hard work. The region will flourish only if it enjoys the creativity, support and efforts of its residents. TWP has terrific people. I am honored to have been chosen to serve as its Delegate and look forward to working with my fellow citizens to realize our region’s full potential. Long Live Neenee! Long Live The West Pacific!
  9. 6 points
    Eli

    NS reminisces

    Dec 3 2002 I had just got to work, same office I'm in now just three different owners since then. Browsing National Review, Jonah Goldberg's column said check out nationstates.net, I'm still here. That morning as I was getting out of the car, Eli's Coming; Three Dog Night version was playing, so I'm humming Eli's Coming. My first nation was born that day, Eli was and is a libertarian leaning plain spoken type... I had to have been born in the Pacific, since it was the only GCR at the time, I think this actually pre-dated the Rejected Realms *scratches head* Soon I went to the Capitalist Alliance, founded by New Caithness who is still around today as El-Cid, and started building alliances between my nation and others in that UCR. I ran for Delegate, in game only, and got elected. Not too long after this I woke up in some other region, I don't believe there were founders yet, and discovered to my chagrin/pleasure that I'd been ejected from the Capitalist Alliance by some sordid scoundrels going by the name of the Atlantic Alliance. <insert boos and hisses here> It seems that they had discovered they could take over regions with a bit of organization and a bull rush to the endorsement button of their favorite take over figurehead. It was a result that had never crossed my mind. I did a bit of looking around and found out that there were some in the Meritocracy that would help us recover our region. Some treaty organization that Free4All was in, so we in the CA joined it. This eventually resulted in us overtaking the AA's figurehead (or they got bored and went elsewhere) and in Eli becoming interested in the Meritocracy. https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/2003/12/12/index.html. *I'll add to this later this will become a very postzilla type deal before long*
  10. 5 points
    Hi there TWP o/ I'm W&S. Some of you know me, others don't, but I'm a soon-to-be-stateless gameplayer who's taken up residence in TWP recently and I realized I hadn't made a forum account here yet. https://www.nationstates.net/nation=twpaf_temp_worker is my nation in TWP. More on the name below :P A little about me for those who don't know me so well: My main nation is Witchcraft and Sorcery and I usually go by W&S or WS or whatever variant of that you please. I just celebrated (or rather completely forgot) my sixth anniversary playing NS on February first. Most of that time has been spent in 10000 Islands, where I've been a senator, dean of the university, and tactical officer of TITO among other things. I also spent a year and a half in the Grey Wardens before returning to 10ki. Right now though I'm in the process of leaving 10ki, this time likely for good as my military ideas have shifted well away from what 10ki stands for. What the heckee am I doing here? Just chilling for now, honestly. I've become friendly with a lot of people in TWP's government over the last couple of years. Badger, Dali, Rigel, Ark, and I've had pleasant interactions with a lot more. Y'all are cool and I'm happy to be here ^_^
  11. 5 points
    Darkesia

    New Theme Chatter

    I have a crazy idea. *watches everyone roll their eyes* Flags: I love the dragon flag where the dragon is clinging to the back of the sun for the Regional WFE flag. I have always been partial to dragons and love them in all their literary and film adaptations. I also really like the stamp-like, trendy flag that was Kawaii's, I think. I like it because it looks like a stamp. If we added a relief of words (or a dragon?) in the top part of the sun, it could easily be used as an FA seal for treaties and dispatches. I dislike the first group of flags because they remind me too much of the Kaiser and WWI sensibilities. However, I have always wanted to rp-live in Imperial Russia. Which brings me to ... Titles: I dislike all of them and their forms of address. But not the idea of titles and some designations. I think we (the region) can do better if we drink some wine and argue about it one evening. I would like to ask that the Heir apparent designation be removed from the lists for a number of reasons we can argue about another time.
  12. 5 points
    Altino

    New Theme Chatter

    That is such a treat, Westwind! Whoa! TWP's history is one of my favorites to hear about. Always do silly and fun. TWP has always been a region that made things their own, I love it. Also I finally found the other thread people were talking in. xD I just commented on the legislation one. My vote was for Imperialist China. Though now I'm sad no one tried to enforce Klingon TWP, I definitely would have voted for that instead. I'm really sad to see some of these older TWP folks discouraging this newer generation from making things their own and investing in a vision for TWP on their terms! Badger sees TWP as a laid back beach vibe, but clearly that's not what anyone was going for when TWP was a Klingon crazyland. Giving newer generations an opportunity to invest in their region is really important. If you're not going to grow with TWP, then it can't be the TWP that you envisioned forever. It has to be the TWP that reaches out to the people investing in it right now, y'know? I get the discomfort. But I feel like these new themes do definitely keep classic TWP elements in them - like the colors didn't go anywhere! - while letting the TWP of the present make their own mark on the region. They need a history too. Also I agree with Dark about confusing names and keeping them clear at least on Gameside. Regions with hard themes are great, but hard to decipher for FA purposes or for new people if they're not pretty well spelled out in like, RO titles or at least a Dispatch somewhere.
  13. 4 points
    Winnipeg

    Paying for The Forum

    And we're back....gotta give the guys are Wholesale Internet a big shoutout. Put a ticket in and they had me up and going on a KVM within 20 minutes of me borking the OS upgrade. *BORK BORK BORK* [/Svedish Chef!]
  14. 4 points
    Denieria

    [PASSED] Command Responsibility

    In my opinion, the recommended vote is AGAINST this resolution. While the concept of the resolution is well-intentioned, the current draft of it is far too intrusive and broad and in language. Furthermore, I believe the resolution allows for the World Assembly to have powers that can be abused, and soldiers and commanders alike would have to face the logistical problem of having to remember all of the WA regulations applicable to them including new resolutions that could be introduced and passed in the future. (P.S. Sorry for the late post, I am still quite new and currently adjusting to all of the duties of this job. Oh, and I have included a poll to gauge the opinion of the region on the current resolution.)
  15. 4 points
    Westwind

    New Theme Chatter

    TWP Dragon Pirates
  16. 4 points
    Altino

    New Theme Chatter

    Wasn't an insult. Just in reference to the people who create a nation, explore it for a couple days, then disappear forever. Clearly people who've been around for over a decade are not in the "will CTE a few weeks from now" Category. Didn't mean to make you feel insulted, West, I love your rocking chair, wise old posts. Weeeelll... not the Hebrews, no. But someone is definitely building those pyramids...
  17. 4 points
    Fujai

    New Theme Chatter

    Seeing as the whole process is up to the delegate's discretion, the only "too late" point is when the new theme is in place. Respecting the delegate's decisions and wanting more community input are not mutually exclusive. It's not "my methods are better," it's more "we think there hasn't been enough community input in this process and that may jeopardize the success of a theme change." Yes, but the extent of that say has been voting in the nice and neat poll that includes only the options presented to us by the cabinet. There hasn't been, and I hazard that there never was intended to be, community involvement in the actual drafting process. There's no reason the delegate couldn't have come to the community, or just the Hall, and said "We're going to have a theme change. How do you feel about that? What do you think of these preliminary options we've come up with so far, and do you have any suggestions of your own?" That would've spawned discussion similar to this one, but without people being miffed by an exclusionary process. As WW pointed out, there are poll options gameside to make it fairly secure. Opening the vote to all residents over 1B will certainly get a better response than the couple dozen in the Hall. Better yet, if we actually put effort into promoting and advertising the Hall, perhaps we wouldn't have that problem.
  18. 4 points
    Westwind

    New Theme Chatter

    *raises eyebrow* Where? Again, I'm not on Discord, so I don't know where this lengthy discussion occurred, because it certainly wasn't here or ingame. You seem to have a different POV than those outside your circle. I think it would be wise to consider this. Correct and agreed. It isn't an organic change, let's not pretend that it is. As I mentioned before, if you set the poll on Native, you can only vote if you have more Influence in TWP than any other region. And if you set it on Large Nations, nations under 1 billion can't vote. IMO you can get a fairly secure ingame vote. But it seem everyone in NS doesn't realize this. But then, it's a pet peeve of mine of that many ignore ingame features in favor of offisite control. Also agreed. What's the rush? Let me follow up on my comments about having made theme changes in my time. I took the Delegacy of a TWP that had a brand new inactive forum, no formal government, no constitution/charter/whatever. I was starting from scratch. That's not the case now. I am afraid my feeling is that this change is being ramrodded down the region's throat, with a couple days of comment substituting for discussion, debate, and input, where any alternative thoughts are dismissed when they were never considered in the first place. Saint Mark seems overly defensive and apologetic, which doesn't inspire confidence in this plan of action. Or in other words, this all seems poorly handled and poorly presented. As I said, fourth impression: My opinion doesn't matter. Sadly, regardless of the Delegate posting promises, I have little confidence in this change under these circumstances. Most of us are not in the Cabinet, and nowhere do I see evidence of this. You are defending yourself instead of promoting your position.....it feels strange and makes me wonder why you are so defensive. How often does the Delegate/Cabinet/Guardians bring such issues before the region? Isn't it true that controversy drives conflict which drives activity? Isn't it shutting down this same activity by rushing to a conclusion? *nods* A Delegate, Guardian, Minister should be servants of the region.
  19. 4 points
    Mediobogdum

    New Theme Chatter

    I agree that interest in the theme change has been more than for all other subjects that have come up for debate in recent times, which is great news. The numbers still do not, in my opinion, come anywhere near to a mandate from the player community at large. By denying them a say, even if it is an advisory one, seems to me to be overly restrictive and may result in feelings of having been ridden roughshod and ignored. It is understood that much work has been done by yourself and the proponents of the shortlisted themes, and that by going to the populace may seem be be against your personal wishes/judgement. However, I fail to see what the cogent argument(s) for not doing so is/are. Of course, the final path ahead is your's to chart, but if I were a player and knew that a theme change was in the offing I would love, nay expect, to be at least asked my views. After all, without the players, what is the region's raison d'etre?
  20. 4 points
    Elegarth

    New Theme Chatter

    I will always respect the Delegate's will, I'm just saying we should not pretend we are being fully open to the options. I'm ok with whatever result
  21. 4 points
    Elegarth

    New Theme Chatter

    57 replies during a 5 day discussion between about 9 players is not "a discussion at lenght" nor a "most people" You have the right to do this, lets just not pretend it is a public driven thing when it isn't. I am all for making clear what is clear. You are merely taking the opinion of a few in something you already decided to go with, but there isn't any real option. Let's not fool ourselves. I do wonder, if you are so sure "most people" supports this, why didnt you take it to an in game poll, make it official, and add the no change option That would have been the fire test to your supposed massive support.
  22. 4 points
    Westwind

    New Theme Chatter

    I changed themes two or three times during my Delegacy. We started out sort of Dune based with the Laandstrad for the Assembly. But no one could remember how to spell it. *chuckles* Later went to the Sacred Order of The West Pacific and The West Pacific Imperium. Policies stayed the same, graphics stayed the same. The theme is just a costume you put on In the end, it's delegate's choice IMO. I mearly added to titles for my themes, so a Minister became Holy Minister and a Guardian became a Cardinal Guardian. In Equilism we went through a period when we changed the theme with each government. By the time they'd gotten to a Game of Thrones theme, they lost me as I didn't know anything about it (still don't) - so was all meaningless to me. Houses, titles, all irrelevant and confusing to me. I like the dragon imagery in the graphics proposal. You can tie that to TWP having had two Delegates associated with Dragons. You could take the Eagle and Crossbones flag and replace the Eagle with a Dragon. I gotta admit, I haven't been fond of TWPAF flags for some time. I think folks are too resistant to making use of the ingame polling. This would still be somewhat restrictive, but it would cast a wider net than the forum and still would be secure: Set the poll to both Native and Large Nation - it will prevent nations from other regions jumping in to vote, and prevent new founded nations from voting. (A nation would have to be about 6 months old to vote...a nation voting age requirement based on game mechanics). You could even form a bi-cameral legislature: ingame based on those polling rules (House), and Hall of Peers voting (Senate), Delegate has veto authority. Although, having a bi-cameral legislature is what got TWP into trouble before. The Senate becomes and exclusionary old boys club that eventually goes inactive and blocks the Delegate (I've seen this movie before) *chuckles* Nothing. I've championed more open citizenship, and removed citizenship oaths when I was delegate. It was never a problem. I haven't been a TWP citizen since oaths were reintroduced. So I'm just being me.
  23. 4 points
    Somyrion

    Hello from the South!

    Hi TWP! I'm Somyrion/Aumeltopia, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the South Pacific and your new ambassador from TSP. I'm looking forward to meeting all of you! I hope we can work towards further cooperation between our two regions ^-^ Please ask me any and all questions you have, from what our position is on this or that piece of politics to whether we really do ride llamas to work in the South (yes, obviously!). It's what I'm here for, after all! - Somy P.S.: If any of you know where the nearest stash of biscuits is, please alert me. You will my receive eternal love.
  24. 4 points
    Vamperiall

    Forgot to introduce myself

    Greetings, West Pacific! I would like to introduce myself as Vamperiall. I like pasta and tacos and playing NationStates. My old nation was inactive and boring, so I decided to join you guys! You like raiding, I like raiding, as I was once a junior Black Hawk myself. West Pacific seems like fun, and your site is awesome.
  25. 4 points
    ZetaOne

    Hello From the Past

    So I was randomly talking to old NSers from ... I've know for like 14 years now. Decided to see how my favourite region was going! It has been years since I've been around, but hey hey!
  26. 4 points
    Dilber

    NS reminisces

    I recruited Eli to TWP, so technically i am responsible for this post.
  27. 3 points
    I may eventually put this up in the SC forum gameside, but leaving it here for the moment to work on. Background: CoCD are a fascist region who recent pulled all their political tags from their WFE as part of a campaign to convince Gameplay that they’re no longer fascist. Keeping the embassies with Nazi and fascist regions open was a dead giveaway though. Maybe needs more ham jokes?
  28. 3 points
    It took a while but I finally made it
  29. 3 points
    Danlina

    A New Theme for The West Pacific!

    I have this Qing inspired flag concept ready, and I was thinking about drawing a TWP themed dragon dance parade with a red and purple Chinese palace in the background. I will send sketches when done, but because I am a bit busy it will take some time until I send a complete piece. Sorry for the tease!
  30. 3 points
  31. 3 points
    Saint Mark

    New Theme Chatter

    No problem. I hadn't cast my own vote earlier because I didn't want to influence anyone's choice. I cast my vote for China, breaking the tie between the two.
  32. 3 points
    Big Bad Badger

    Admin Requests Part Quatre

    Done! But please don't call me Dark.
  33. 3 points
    Mediobogdum

    New Theme Chatter

    I can see absolutely no reason why we cannot present these options, plus others, to the TWP players as a Regional Poll. It would give a much wider set of opinions and might even come up with some new options. In addition, it would make the players feel much more involved and that they 'own' what is happening. It is understood that there might be some attempts at rigging the vote by outside influences, but this issue can be easily sidestepped by clearly stating that we are only allowing nations who have been in the region prior to 1 Feb 2019, or maybe 1 Jan 2019, to vote and to make the poll as an advisory, but meaningful, one to the Delegate. Sorting out the false 'claims' from the probable few hundred voters might be time consuming but still worth the effort. Just out of interest, is it possible to delete a vote from the list by the poll originator so this might be another way of cleaning the pollsters out who are not eligible? Suggest Options: Russia, China, Japan, Pirate, No Change, Other- state on rmb with case argued. Options randomly placed in the selection list, of course!
  34. 3 points
    Fujai

    New Theme Chatter

    From what I'm seeing, there's three main opinions: those in favor of one of the three presented themes, those in favor of a change, but not one of the themes presented, and those not in favor of a change. While it's Halo's perogative and I understand the reasoning, adding either a "Different Theme" and/or a "No Change" option would have soothed people's opinions and made them feel more included and valued. As we've seen here and other places, a community involved process doesn't mean all thousands of nations are involved, this thread alone has less than twenty different posters in it. Just because it may be a little more contentious and complicated doesn't make community involvement in decision making a bad idea. Regardless of what happens, I have faith that Halo will make it work and we'll have a successful theme, even though the one that wins won't be everyone's first choice.
  35. 3 points
    Dewilands

    New Theme Chatter

    I have avoided publicly commenting on these changes because I wanted to let the process play itself out organically. However... I understand Halo's reasons for trying a theme and I'm willing to give it a chance. As Westwind has shown, themes and ways of doing things can change over time. The Ele/Badger/Davelands/Neenee era of TWP was theme-less, maybe Halo will begin a themed era. Or not. If it doesn't work out it can easily be changed or removed. I agree that it is 100% Halo's decision. He could wake up tomorrow and declare that we are now "TWP In Space" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmI77ZBeJrQ ) and go forward with that theme. But it's a better thing that he is asking for all this input. Maybe, like Dark said, we are close to something really good. Maybe some flexibility is in order by all sides. But, one thing that I am against is the decision to add the Peers based on the whim of the Delegate. This is exactly the type of thing we created the Hall of Nations for. Honestly, if the Delegate proposed a change like this and it was debated and voted on by the Hall, there is almost no chance of it failing, so why not let them do it? It's been almost a year since the Hall did anything of substance besides run elections. If you wanted to spur activity then that would be a great way to start. And I agree with Badger that Westwind's graphics were an amazing look back into the past.
  36. 3 points
    Fujai

    New Theme Chatter

    For pirates, I was thinking more of a Pirates of the Caribbean style, nevermind that it's wildly historically inaccurate. The delegate could have the position of Pirate King/Queen/what have you, the guardians being their immediate officers, and the ministers being captains of their respective ministries. I agree that we don't want to go for a militaristic feel, but a more whimsical one. That being said, I do feel like the theme options are a bit too regimented, though well put together, in their current states.
  37. 3 points
    k1213693

    New Theme Chatter

    I agree wholeheartedly about the names. It makes it a bit harder for me to fill out diplomatic reports on Osiris since the Viziers all have silly titles like "Sandwich Enforcer" on the Osiris region page. I can still figure out who's who by looking on their regional forum to find out their real titles (Vizier of Gameside Affairs, Sub-Vizier of Community Affairs, etc.), but it would be a nightmare for me if all of their real titles were, in fact, names like Sandwich Enforcer or Pebble. I can imagine there would be a lot of confusion amongst members of our region if our gov officials' titles were "Czarveich" or "Kung" or "ChiangChun."
  38. 3 points
    Westwind

    New Theme Chatter

    More old Graphics....I'll spoiler them to spare the thread.
  39. 3 points
    Westwind

    New Theme Chatter

    Hmmmm. My first impression: Any theme needs to incorporate traditional TWP. My second impression: Change can be good, and a theme can be a rallying point. But change for the sake of change is useless. *reads other thread* My third impression: These theme proposals don't speak to me. There's nothing wrong with them. But I don't want to live in a Russia or China themed region, I want to live in The West Pacific which has nothing to do with those. Be Original, be TWP. A pirate theme works.....it's not nationality/location specific. An imperial theme works....if it's not RL nation based... TWP should be TWP themed. My fourth impression: None of my prior impressions matter. Doesn't the government represent all those gameside nations too? I refuse to sign an oath to prove I'm active in a region. So my opinion has no weight.
  40. 3 points
    Ark

    New Theme Chatter

    The guardianship and cabinet have considered the pros and cons of a theme change at every step of the way. We knew that some people would be iffy about stepping away from "traditional" TWP. We want you to know that what you came to and stayed in TWP for, whether it's relaxation, a career, or just a place to enjoy some snark, a theme change won't affect your ability to do that. I personally love all the proposed themes and I can't wait to see how the Hall votes. As far as changing the flag, one of the few instructions Halo explicitly gave us was to make the flag still reflective of TWP's current flag design, either through the color scheme or the sunburst. The flag will always feel like TWP regardless. The reason we settled on the Hall was covered by Halo, but I'd also like to bring up that having the entire region vote on a theme doesn't make all that much sense when most of the nations that would be voting are only gameside, which is 1/3rd of the areas the theme would actually affect (the other two being discord and forum obviously). I understand the traditionalist stance, of course, but sometimes it's okay to step away from tradition, and take a leap in the hope that the region will be better for it. I am very confident that this theme change will do nothing except provide another fun aspect to TWP and make the region a better place for a variety of player personalities to be in.
  41. 3 points
    Overthinkers

    New Theme Chatter

    I've always enjoyed the laid-back theme (or lack of such) in TWP as well, and I respect the opinion of those who wish to uphold it. But having the theme change generates some excitement, and having a set theme in general incites interest in newcomers. I'm thinking back to when TWPAF unveiled the new pirate theme. Before Altino took over, we lacked a clear theme there; closest thing we had was the omnipresent anime and pinkness. When the pirate theme was unveiled, even our existing members renewed their interest and got more involved. Alti complimented this with effective recruitment drives, and TWPAF was in better shape than it had been in a while, with new stars rising through the ranks. By embracing a new theme, any theme, we would have a clearer direction and a way to engage newcomers. Have to remember that most new NS players come from my generation, and we're famously bad at staying interested for long. We need to give them a reason to be interested. </rambling>
  42. 3 points
    Kshrlmnt

    Banishing vowels since 2010

    There once was a region called TWP That greatly interested me. They held a secret Santa But it turns out you can't-a Participate without a forum account.
  43. 3 points
    Atlae

    "Don't Forget. You're Here Forever."

    Greetings, fellow West Pacificans. I've decided to take an extended break from NationStates. (I will make this post as short but informative as I can due to the Inverse Law of Retirement Posts.) As most of you know, I am a student (my grades are doing well this time around so far ) and that takes up a lot of my time, with homework and extracurriculars. The rest of my free time for a long time was put into NationStates. It's been an honor to serve among you all in government, in Discord conversation, and in TWPAF. There are a few reasons why I decided to leave. One and obviously the most important is my time. As goes the old saying, "RL >>>>>>>>>>> NS." Furthermore, my interest in NS has been steadily decaying for a while. It certainly doesn't help with all the toxicity that is to be expected from an online community masquerading as a political simulator (though perhaps the toxicity was always there). If you want more details, feel free to DM me (although I will not respond as quickly as I used to). I hope the TWPAF pirates will sail on to new seas! It's been a pleasure with you all.
  44. 3 points
    Dewilands

    What to do?

    1. Become a citizen. It's easy and it is a place to start. 2. Reach out to Halo (Saint Mark) on the RMB or Discord. He is in charge of Recruitement and Citizenry and will help you. 3. Think about what interests you. Being a diplomat (Foreign Affairs), creating events (Internal Affairs), writing (Newspaper), raiding and the military (TWPAF), the WA and laws (World Assembly Affairs), or something else that we can help you nurture. 4. Be social on here, the RMB, and Discord. You never know who you might meet who will be able to help you figure out what you want to do.
  45. 3 points
    Darkesia

    Ask me anything

    Hmm... I am not the best one to ask about this. TAO is the expert. It was TAO's puppet, Mr. Stick, who enlightened the NSverse about the evil Marsupials and roo-fur madness. I am uncertain if it began in TWP. But it was TWP that evangelized it and even used it's military in battles against marsupial scum. We even had a delegate (BBD) succumb to roo-fur oil and eucalyptus addiction and had to be removed from office after a month. TWP is firmly anti-marsupial.
  46. 3 points
    Darkesia

    Hello!

    *bottom lip quivers* I just had this suit dry cleaned. I don't want to get newbie blood all over it! *bursts into tears*
  47. 3 points
    Yup, good point. A vote against this is not a vote for communism but against a bad proposal. Nah, don't beat yourself up. You had an idea and talked it through. The author of this proposal on the other hand ran with a bad proposal, submitted it without feedback and probably even spent real money (or several hours of work) on it just to see it go down in flames. You are several rungs above that. Btw: the target of the other proposal that is currently in queue (commend Knootoos) has written this resolution: https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_past_resolution/id=122/council=1 While it is aimed at readers and not authors of proposals, I think it might be relatively close in spirit to what you had in mind. So although it is difficult to write such legislation, it is not completely impossible.
  48. 3 points
    Westwind

    Admin Requests Part Quatre

    Fixed.
  49. 3 points
    I have to actually make an IC voting decision on a GA resolution? What is this nonsense?
  50. 3 points
    @Benjabobaria I am well acquainted with Navasse but in this case I wanted to see a region that caused GP grief to be finished (even if it was dying all on its own). Frankly I hope that the Liberate [insert fascist or fascist-friendly region] bandwagon is ending for the time being.
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